Solving Momentum & Energy Conservation: Find Daughter Particle Velocities

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The discussion focuses on a particle decay problem involving momentum and energy conservation. A particle of rest mass m decays into two daughter particles of rest mass 2m/5 each, moving in the same direction. Participants explore the assumption of equal momentum for the daughter particles and the complexities of calculating their velocities in different frames. The calculations reveal that in the rest frame, the daughter particles have a velocity of 3/5c, while in the lab frame, one particle moves at +11c/13 and the other at -c/7, highlighting the importance of momentum conservation. The conversation concludes with an understanding that unequal velocities in the lab frame are necessary to maintain conservation laws.
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Homework Statement



A particle of rest mass m moving with speed c/2 decays into two particles of rest mass 2m/5 each.The daughter particles move in the same line as the direction of motion of the original particle.Then what are the velocities of daughter particle?


Homework Equations



Momentum conservation:

p = p1+p2

Energy conservation:
(p2c2+m2c4)1/2=(p12c2+m12c4)1/2+(p22c2+m22c4)1/2


The Attempt at a Solution



Can i assume that both daughter particle has same momentum(velocity)?
otherwise the second equation becomes really complicated.:(
 
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Try solving the problem in the rest frame of the original particle, and then transform back to the lab frame.
 


In the frame of original particle, the daughter particles will have equal and opposite momentum.

Then?how to proceed?
 


What are the energy and the magnitude of the momentum of each particle?
 
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velocity of the particles in the frame of original particle,v=\frac{\frac{c%<br /> }{2}+v^{\prime }}{1+\frac{v^{\prime }c}{2c^{2}}}
magnitude of momentum,p=\frac{2}{5}\frac{mv}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}}
Energy =\left( p^{2}c^{2}+m^{2}c^{4}\right) ^{1/2}

am i correct?
But things seems much more complicated.:confused:
 


You're kind of going backwards. First, what is the energy of the particle in its rest frame? Then by conservation of energy, what can you say about the energy of the decay products? Then calculate their momenta.
 


At rest frame,

Energy = mc2

By conservation of energy,

2(p^{2}c^{2}+\frac{4}{25}m^{2}c^{4})^{1/2}=mc^{2}

p=\frac{3}{10}mc

is that right?
 


and velocity of the daughter particle in this frame,
v=\frac{3}{5}c
 


And on converting it to lab frame,i got,

v=\frac{c}{7}

I think now i started to understand. Thanks a lot :smile::smile:
 
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humanist rho said:
At rest frame,

Energy = mc2

By conservation of energy,

2(p^{2}c^{2}+\frac{4}{25}m^{2}c^{4})^{1/2}=mc^{2}

p=\frac{3}{10}mc

is that right?
Looks good. You'll find in general that when trying to solve problems in relativity like this one, it's best to stick with energy E and momentum p when you can and only resort to working with velocity v/c when absolutely necessary.

humanist rho said:
and velocity of the daughter particle in this frame,
v=\frac{3}{5}c
To be a bit pedantic, this is the speed of each daughter particle. You still have to account for their directions.

humanist rho said:
And on converting it to lab frame,i got,

v=\frac{c}{7}

I think now i started to understand. Thanks a lot :smile::smile:
What's the speed of the other daughter particle in the lab frame?
 
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In the frame of original particle,
Each new particle has velocity ,±5c/3 .

In the lab frame one particle has velocity +11c/13 and other has velocity -c/7.

Why aren't they equal? even when both of them have same mass and is produced from same particle?
 
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If they were equal in the lab frame that would violate conservation of momentum, since the original particle has non-zero momentum...
 
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yes i understood. thanks. :)
 
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