Can you do a PhD in Physics and get a job at the same time?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of pursuing a PhD in Physics while simultaneously holding a job. Participants explore funding options for both PhD and Master's programs, the nature of Master's degrees in the US, and the challenges of balancing work and academic commitments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention that universities typically provide stipends ranging from 15-35k/year for PhD students, along with full tuition waivers.
  • Others note that funding for Master's degrees is more challenging to obtain, particularly in Physics, as many students pursue a PhD directly after their Bachelor's.
  • One participant suggests that some employers may fund a PhD if it is relevant to the employee's work, although balancing work and study can be difficult.
  • It is highlighted that most US physics Master's programs are considered "terminal" degrees, often aimed at industry-related fields or teacher certification, rather than a pathway to a PhD.
  • Participants discuss the typical academic trajectory in the US, where students may complete a Master's degree during their PhD coursework but often do not pursue a Master's as a standalone goal.
  • One participant reflects on their personal experience with the Master's program and expresses gratitude for the research opportunities that arose, indicating that information about the program structure was not well communicated to them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the relationship between Master's and PhD programs, particularly in the context of funding and career paths. There is no consensus on the best approach to balancing work and academic pursuits.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the structure of Master's programs in the US differs from that in other countries, which may lead to confusion regarding their purpose and relationship to PhD programs.

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I want to get a PhD in Physics but I need a job at the same time.

Does the universities pay you when you are doing your PhD?

And what about a Masters Degree? I want to do a Masters in physics and an MBA, can you get a job at the same time?
 
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Karimspencer said:
I want to get a PhD in Physics but I need a job at the same time.

Does the universities pay you when you are doing your PhD?

Yes, graduate students are given a stipend anywhere between 15-35k/yr, along with a full tuition waiver.

And what about a Masters Degree? I want to do a Masters in physics and an MBA, can you get a job at the same time?

Funding is harder to come by for masters students, especially since almost nobody gets a masters in physics (except for those who leave their PhD programs early).
 
If you get a full time job, some employers will pay for your PhD if it relates to your work. It's hard to work and get the degree but I know many who have done it.
 
Nabeshin said:
Funding is harder to come by for masters students, especially since almost nobody gets a masters in physics (except for those who leave their PhD programs early).

Well I want to get a Masters first and then a PhD
 
Karimspencer said:
Well I want to get a Masters first and then a PhD

In the US, most physics masters-degree programs are "terminal" degrees that are do not lead into a PhD program. My impression is that they are usually specialized programs for industry-related fields, or certification programs for high-school teachers, who can usually get a bigger salary if they have a masters degree and not just a bachelor's.

People who want to get a PhD in physics enter a PhD program immediately after the bachelor's degree, and spend a year or two doing coursework before doing research full time towards their dissertations. Along the way, usually after they have completed a certain number of hours of coursework, they can file the appropriate paperwork and get a masters degree. I did this. Some of my friends in grad school didn't bother with it.

This is different than in most other countries, and often causes confusion on this forum.
 
Thanks , I get it now.
 
I have one question jtbell: Where did you get your PhD and what university are you a professor in?
 
jtbell said:
In the US, most physics masters-degree programs are "terminal" degrees that are do not lead into a PhD program. My impression is that they are usually specialized programs for industry-related fields, or certification programs for high-school teachers, who can usually get a bigger salary if they have a masters degree and not just a bachelor's.

People who want to get a PhD in physics enter a PhD program immediately after the bachelor's degree, and spend a year or two doing coursework before doing research full time towards their dissertations. Along the way, usually after they have completed a certain number of hours of coursework, they can file the appropriate paperwork and get a masters degree. I did this. Some of my friends in grad school didn't bother with it.

This is different than in most other countries, and often causes confusion on this forum.

This is very good information. I would not have wasted my time getting my master's if it had not been for the excellent research group I was fathered into. My professor and I saw eye to eye on many theoretical inquiries, and thought that we would work well together in research. So I was very lucky; the information you mentioned above was never disseminated to me, which is a shame. I, however, and applying for the doctoral program at UC Berkeley in the hopes of working under the tutelage of Alexei Filippenko (which again, would require some luck ha!). I did not want to necro this thread, but thank you.
 

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