Medical Why Doesn't Diatomaceous Earth Cut Humans?

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Diatomaceous Earth (DE) is a fine powder used for insect control, functioning by damaging the exoskeletons of insects and causing dehydration. It is safe for humans and pets, except for certain insects like Madagascar cockroaches, due to its mechanical action rather than chemical toxicity. The discussion centers on the mechanism of how DE affects insects without harming humans. One explanation suggests that DE gets lodged in the joints of insects, which are smaller and more susceptible to its effects, while human skin does not allow for similar penetration. Additionally, DE may absorb the waxy coating on insects, leading to moisture loss and death, rather than cutting them. Concerns about inhalation risks are noted, particularly with silica-based DE, but the primary action is linked to its ability to dry out insects rather than physically cutting them. The conversation highlights the confusion surrounding the terminology used to describe DE's effects, with some sources inaccurately suggesting it "cuts" insects.
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Diatomaceous Earth is a very fine white powder, used for insect control among other things. According to my research on the webernets, it works by "cutting up" the exoskeletons of insects, and drying them out resulting in death.

Because this substance works through mechanical means rather than chemical, it is completely harmless to humans, pets (except your Madagascar cockroach), and is even found in many foods that we eat.

However, no amount of searching I do can find me an answer to the simple question: why doesn't it cut humans? The only answer that I get is that it is "too small." Huh? If I have a sharp knife, and I make it even smaller, it's only become sharper, thus more capable of cutting me. How is this substance able to cut insects but not humans?
 
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GladScientist said:
Diatomaceous Earth is a very fine white powder, used for insect control among other things. According to my research on the webernets, it works by "cutting up" the exoskeletons of insects, and drying them out resulting in death.

Because this substance works through mechanical means rather than chemical, it is completely harmless to humans, pets (except your Madagascar cockroach), and is even found in many foods that we eat.

However, no amount of searching I do can find me an answer to the simple question: why doesn't it cut humans? The only answer that I get is that it is "too small." Huh? If I have a sharp knife, and I make it even smaller, it's only become sharper, thus more capable of cutting me. How is this substance able to cut insects but not humans?
I looked into this a few months back and what I read is not that it "cuts" insects per se, but that it gets stuck in their joints and the more they move the more it gets driven into the soft tissue there. It's the right size and sharpness for that. Human skin cells don't grind against each other in a way that would drive the DE deeper in between them.

I'm not completely sure why it's safe for internal use but I would deduce it's because, the alimentary tract between the mouth and stomach is protected by mucous, and, once in the stomach the DE, which is calcium carbonate, is quickly dissolved by stomach acids.
 
Yeah, I've considered the possibility that "cut" isn't necessarily used in a literal sense as we imagine it. That could be the explanation.
 
I understood (though I may be wrong) that where it does its damage is in the breathing canals in an insect's abdomen. If the diatomaceous Earth is just the right size, it will get jammed in there and wreak havoc.

If our alveoli have a different dimension - larger or smaller - then no jamming.
 
DaveC426913 said:
I understood (though I may be wrong) that where it does its damage is in the breathing canals in an insect's abdomen. If the diatomaceous Earth is just the right size, it will get jammed in there and wreak havoc.
This would certainly kill them faster than immobilization.
 
DaveC426913 said:
I understood (though I may be wrong) that where it does its damage is in the breathing canals in an insect's abdomen. If the diatomaceous Earth is just the right size, it will get jammed in there and wreak havoc.

If our alveoli have a different dimension - larger or smaller - then no jamming.

While this sounds plausible, I'm pretty sure that it has nothing to do with inhalation, according to the sources I've looked at.
 
More information here, method of action starts on page 339:
http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/grsc_subi/Teaching/GRSC651/GRSC651_Courses_Material/lecture_slides/GRSC651_lect_20(1)_Inert_Dusts.pdf

Be careful with inhalation if the dust is based on silica crystals.
 
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Monique said:
More information here, method of action starts on page 339:
http://www.ksre.ksu.edu/grsc_subi/Teaching/GRSC651/GRSC651_Courses_Material/lecture_slides/GRSC651_lect_20(1)_Inert_Dusts.pdf
Interesting! It soaks up their wax covering and they dry out.

Be careful with inhalation if the dust is based on silica crystals.
And not calcium carbonate as I thought, though there's no safe dust to inhale.
 
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Bumping this as I never got a totally clear answer.
 
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GladScientist said:
Bumping this as I never got a totally clear answer.
Can you explain what is not clear to you?
 
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GladScientist said:
Bumping this as I never got a totally clear answer.
Go to p. 340 of Monique's link and read "Proposed Modes of Action". This is the best info anyone has dug up.

Their best bet is that DE absorbs the wax ( epicuticular lipid layers) from the insect's outer shell. That wax is holding their moisture in, so without it they dry up and that leads to their death. There are pictures of a bug there covered with dust that has soaked up it's wax: looks covered in white moss.
 
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So it doesn't have anything to do with cutting or chipping away the exoskeleton, but simply dries them out?

That sounds like an acceptable answer, but if that's the case then it's odd that most sources describe DE to "cut" insects.

Evo said:
Can you explain what is not clear to you?

I haven't seen a satisfactory answer to the question in the title. Unless the DE doesn't cut insects in the first place, in which case it's just misleading.
 
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