So the tables have turned What does that mean?

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The phrase "the tables have turned" is explored in the context of its origin and meaning. Participants speculate that it may relate to gambling, where a player shifts from losing to winning, or possibly to the dynamics of a game like backgammon. One contributor shares a personal experience of using the phrase in chess, where they would switch positions with a more skilled player to learn strategic exploitation of advantages. The discussion highlights the phrase's association with changing fortunes in games and the educational value of experiencing different perspectives in competitive scenarios. Overall, the conversation reflects on the phrase's implications in gaming contexts and its broader significance in discussions of strategy and learning.
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"So the tables have turned!"... What does that mean?!

Seriously, what is the origin of this phrase? Is it like one of those rotating tables at dim sum, or does "turning" mean flipping over like in a gun fight? I don't know. My best guess is it's referring to gambling when there's like a losing blackjack table or something and then a person suddenly starts winning... Anyone know the origin of this phrase? Wait, is it, again at a gambling table, when the dealer and the player switch (since the position is allocated on the table)?
 
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When I was improving my chess game, I often played with my friend's brother, who was a genius at the game. He would get an advantage on me in materials and/or position, then turn the table (switch the board to swap our positions) to see if I understood how to exploit the situations that he had set up. It was quite a good way to learn under "live fire", as opposed to studying books on chess theory.
 


turbo-1 said:
When I was improving my chess game, I often played with my friend's brother, who was a genius at the game. He would get an advantage on me in materials and/or position, then turn the table (switch the board to swap our positions) to see if I understood how to exploit the situations that he had set up. It was quite a good way to learn under "live fire", as opposed to studying books on chess theory.
Me too. When I found myself losing, I would just turn the table thus ending the game and maintaining my undefeated status.
 


turbo-1 said:
When I was improving my chess game, I often played with my friend's brother, who was a genius at the game. He would get an advantage on me in materials and/or position, then turn the table (switch the board to swap our positions) to see if I understood how to exploit the situations that he had set up. It was quite a good way to learn under "live fire", as opposed to studying books on chess theory.

I'd love to play with a grand master who would do this once per game :D
 
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