Apostol 2.13 - #15 Cavalieri Solids (Volume Integration)

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The problem involves calculating the volume of a solid with a circular base of radius 2, where each cross-section perpendicular to a fixed diameter is an equilateral triangle. The original poster attempts to derive the volume through integration, but encounters a discrepancy with the answer provided in the textbook.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the area of the triangular cross-sections and question the height of the triangles based on the base length. There is also a consideration of symmetry in the volume integration process.

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Some participants have provided guidance on checking the area calculations for the triangular cross-sections. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the textbook answers, and multiple interpretations of the integration approach are being explored.

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Participants mention the edition of the textbook and its historical context, noting that earlier editions may have higher error rates in the answer sections. There is a discussion about the reliability of textbook answers and the possibility of discrepancies.

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A solid has a circular base of radius 2. Each cross section cut by a plane perpendicular to a fixed diameter is an equilateral triangle. Compute the volume of the solid.

First, we find a way to define a the distance of a chord of the circle perpendicular to the fixed diameter. The equation y=\sqrt(2^2-x) from x=-2 to 2 gives half the chord, so 2y is equal to the chord's length. At any point x, the solid's area is an equilateral triangle, so all sides must have length equal to the chord of the circle, or 2y. Now the area of an equilateral triangle with side 2y is equal to (2y)^2\sqrt(3)/4 = y^2\sqrt(3). Substituting for y, we have that Area(x)=(4-x^2)\sqrt{3}. Integrating, we find that
\int_{-2}^2 A(x) dx=2\int_0^2 \sqrt{3}(4-x^2) dx = \frac{32\sqrt{3}}{3}

The problem is that the book has \frac{16\sqrt{3}}{3}, and I want to make sure I didn't do it incorrectly.
 
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Check the area of your triangular cross-sections again. If the base is 2y , what is the height?
 
dynamicsolo said:
Check the area of your triangular cross-sections again. If the base is 2y , what is the height?

I did it by dropping an angle bisector from the top vertex of the equilateral triangle to create two right triangles. Then the base is y, and the hypotenuse is 2y. The pythagorean theorem yields the height equal to \sqrt{(2y)^2-y^2}=y\sqrt{3}, so the area of this right triangle is \frac{1}{2}y \times y\sqrt{3}; however this is just one half of the area of the equilateral triangle. Therefore the area of the equilateral triangle is y^2\sqrt{3}.

This agrees with the formula for the area of an equilateral triangle given here:
http://www.mathwords.com/a/area_equilateral_triangle.htm

Taking s=2y, we have that the area is equal to \frac{(2y)^2\sqrt{3}}{4}=y^2\sqrt{3}.
 
Sorry, yes: my fault for trying to deal with more than one matter at once. I am wondering if the solver for Apostol used symmetry and forgot to double the volume integration. I am getting the same answer you are.

Stewart does this as Example 7 in Section 6.2 with a radius of 1 and gets one-eighth our volume, which is consistent. Back-of-the-book answers aren't 100%...
 
dynamicsolo said:
Sorry, yes: my fault for trying to deal with more than one matter at once. I am wondering if the solver for Apostol used symmetry and forgot to double the volume integration. I am getting the same answer you are.

Stewart does this as Example 7 in Section 6.2 with a radius of 1 and gets one-eighth our volume, which is consistent. Back-of-the-book answers aren't 100%...

Glad to see that you're getting the same answer as me. I felt pretty solid about this one, but Apostol's answers in the back are better percentage-wise than any other book I've seen. I've done every problem through the first 200 pages or so and only come up with a few legitimate discrepancies.
 
What edition is Apostol up to now? Generally, Third and later Editions have the error rates in the answer sections down to about 0.25% or less...
 
dynamicsolo said:
What edition is Apostol up to now? Generally, Third and later Editions have the error rates in the answer sections down to about 0.25% or less...

The most recent edition is the second, and it's from the 1960s. I don't think any new ones will be out any time soon, but it's a really solid text.
 
Well, it's supposed to be a classic. But I suspect the percentage of errors in the answers could be somewhere in the 0.25% to 0.5% range (from my long experience with textbooks)...

I looked Apostol up and he's 88 this year. I doubt he's going to revise the book (though I've been surprised in the past); he's moved on to other projects.
 

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