Length of the vector (electrostatic cylinder)

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The discussion revolves around the confusion regarding the calculation of the vector length \vec{r}-\vec{r'} in the context of electrostatics involving a cylinder. The hint suggests using the formula [r^2 + (z - z_0)^2]^{1/2}, which aligns with a Pythagorean approach to find the hypotenuse of a triangle formed by the cylindrical coordinates. There is a debate on whether the law of cosines can be applied in this scenario, with some participants advocating for its use in different contexts. The cylindrical coordinates are emphasized as a more suitable method for solving the problem, particularly when considering the geometry of the charge element. Understanding the specific terms and their meanings is crucial for resolving the confusion surrounding the hint and the appropriate method to use.
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My problem is that I'm confused about a hint I was given in this problem. I usually use the law of cosine to find the length of \vec{r}-\vec{r'}. But the hint here says that I should make it [r^2 + (z - z_0)^2]^{1/2}

Where does this come from? I can't quite get my head around the geometrical idea of this hint. Can't the law of cosine be used here?
 
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It's really hard to answer these questions when you don't specify what any of the terms mean, so I can only guess at what r-r' even is. It looks like a Pythagoras approach to give you the hypotenuse of the triangle with sides r and z-z0.

How would you use the law of cosine, and what problem would using it solve?
 
I don't know how the hint is specifically formulated but I think the best way here is to use cylindrical coordinates.
It may be that r' is the cylindrical radius of the charge element.
The point P has r=0 and z=zo.
 
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