How Does Subset Proof in Abstract Algebra Work?

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The discussion revolves around subset proofs in abstract algebra, specifically focusing on properties of sets and their relationships. The original poster presents two parts of a problem involving subsets of a universal set, aiming to demonstrate specific inclusions and equivalences.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the proof of the inclusion B ⊆ A ∪ (B ∩ A^c) and discuss the implications of set identities. There are attempts to clarify the reasoning behind the proof and the use of set properties. Questions arise regarding the understanding of the difference between sets and the validity of identities in various cases.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights and suggestions for refining the proofs. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants expressing confusion about the application of certain identities and the logical flow of the arguments. The discussion remains active, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate a lack of understanding regarding the properties of set differences and the implications of assuming A = B. There is also mention of the original poster's uncertainty about the foundational concepts necessary for the proofs.

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Homework Statement


Question 1. Let U be a universal set, A and B two subsets of U.
(1) Show that
B ⊆ A ∪ (B ∩ A^c).
(2) A = B if and only if there exists a subset X of U such that A ∪ X = B ∪ X and X\A^c = X\B^c.

The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt at a solution is as follows:

Part 1: Showing B ⊆ A ∪ (B ∩ A^c)

(A∪B)∩(A∪A^c)
(A∪B)∩(\bigcup)

Since A∪B are both in universe, it serves that B ⊆ A ∪ (B ∩ A^c).

Part 2
A = B if and only if there exists a subset X of U such that A ∪ X = B ∪ X and X\A^c = X\B^c.

So I claimed double inclusion proof here, letting X\inA

Case 1: X\inX

X\inA\cupX\RightarrowX\inB\cupX\RightarrowX\inB

Case 2: X\notinX\RightarrowX\inX\A^c\RightarrowX\inX\B^c\RightarrowX\inX or X\inB^c but X\notinX so X\inB

So I think the problem with this question is that I am not fully understanding the concept of the property known as the difference.
 
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ktheo said:
My attempt at a solution is as follows:

Part 1: Showing B ⊆ A ∪ (B ∩ A^c)

(A∪B)∩(A∪A^c)
(A∪B)∩(\bigcup)

Since A∪B are both in universe, it serves that B ⊆ A ∪ (B ∩ A^c).
I don't understand your proof. May I suggest something along these lines: if b \in B, and b \not\in A, then b \in B \cap A^c. Therefore...
So I think the problem with this question is that I am not fully understanding the concept of the property known as the difference.
You may find it helpful to use the following identity: A \setminus B = A \cap B^c for any sets A, B \subset U.
 
jbunniii said:
I don't understand your proof. May I suggest something along these lines: if b \in B, and b \not\in A, then b \in B \cap A^c. Therefore...
Therefore B\inB and B\inA? Is that what you're implying? I'm confused where B\inB comes into play. I'm not sure I know how I'm supposed to approach this then... I thought I was supposed to manipulate the side B into the right side using the property for AUA^c equal to the universe. Or am I supposed to do some sort of proof using inclusion... I kind of use A=B as the signal that I am supposed to do that. I'm sorry bear with me I am quite new to all this...
You may find it helpful to use the following identity: A \setminus B = A \cap B^c for any sets A, B \subset U.

When A and B in this case are already compliments, that makes no difference? I can still switch using that identity?
 
ktheo said:
When A and B in this case are already compliments, that makes no difference? I can still switch using that identity?
Yes, the identity is valid in all cases. If you have something like X \setminus A^c then that equals X \cap(A^c)^c = X \cap A.
 
Hi jbunni, could you check out my second attempt at question part 1:

So B⊆A∪(B∩A^c)

To show this, we can say that when x∈B, implies there exists an x∈A∪(B∩A^c)

We will let x∈B,

Case 1: x∈ A

x∈ A--->x∈ A or x∈(B∩A^c). So clearly, x∈A.

Case 2: x∉A

x∈A or x∈(B∩A^c). We have declared x∉A, so x∈B and x∈A^c. Now we note that X∈A^c is = to X∉A.

Thus proving that B⊆A∪(B∩A^c)
 
ktheo said:
Hi jbunni, could you check out my second attempt at question part 1:

So B⊆A∪(B∩A^c)

To show this, we can say that when x∈B, implies there exists an x∈A∪(B∩A^c)

We will let x∈B,

Case 1: x∈ A

x∈ A--->x∈ A or x∈(B∩A^c). So clearly, x∈A.

Case 2: x∉A

x∈A or x∈(B∩A^c). We have declared x∉A, so x∈B and x∈A^c. Now we note that X∈A^c is = to X∉A.

Thus proving that B⊆A∪(B∩A^c)

I think you have the right idea, but I would word it somewhat differently. See if this sounds cleaner to you:

Let x \in B. We consider two cases:

Case 1: x \in A. In this case x \in A \cup (B \cap A^c) because A \subset A \cup (B \cap A^c).

Case 2: x \not\in A. Then x \in (B \cap A^c). Therefore x \in A \cup (B \cap A^c), because (B \cap A^c) \subset A \cup (B \cap A^c)

In both cases, we have established that x \in B implies x \in A \cup (B \cap A^c). This shows that B \subset A \cup (B \cap A^c).
 

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