Having trouble with circuit to adjust speed of electric motor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of controlling the speed of an electric motor using a circuit that includes a potentiometer. Participants explore various methods to achieve slower motor speeds, including the use of PWM (pulse width modulation) circuits, while addressing issues related to overheating components and circuit specifications.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their circuit configuration and the overheating issue when using a 200 Ohm, 3W potentiometer.
  • Another suggests using a potentiometer with a larger wattage rating, such as 50W, or experimenting with different resistance values.
  • Several participants propose using a PWM circuit as a more efficient method for controlling motor speed, arguing that simply dropping voltage with a resistor is ineffective and leads to overheating.
  • A participant shares a specific PWM application involving temperature control, indicating the potential for more advanced motor speed regulation.
  • Links to commercial PWM controllers and variable resistor speed controls are provided, with discussions on their suitability for the participant's battery specifications.
  • Clarification on the power ratings of suggested components is discussed, with one participant confirming that a 15A controller would be sufficient for their setup.
  • A technical explanation of generating PWM signals using op-amps and FETs is introduced, suggesting a method for those interested in building their own circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that PWM is a more effective method for controlling motor speed compared to using a potentiometer alone. However, there are differing opinions on the specific components and configurations that should be used, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for the participant's specific needs.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specifications of the motor and other components, which may affect the effectiveness of the proposed solutions. There are also unresolved questions about the optimal resistance and wattage ratings for the potentiometer and other circuit elements.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electric motor control, circuit design, and PWM applications may find this discussion beneficial, particularly those working on projects involving variable speed motors.

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I'm building a device powered by an electric motor, it needs to travel much slower than the RPM output the motor has... I've gotten into some trouble with my circuit trying slow the thing down, hoping for some suggestions...


at the moment my circuit goes: battery, switch, potentiometer, motor, (back to battery). - All connected in series.

Without the potentiometer there's no problems, but I'm finding the once I put one in it overheats within a few seconds...

it's a 12v, 2.3Ah battery
dont know the switch's specifications but i haven't had any problems with it
The motor's specifications I don't know (still in a testing/playing around to see what works phase - I could buy a different motor later if needed)... I took it out of a golf buggy though, so maybe you could make an educated guess about the info you need to help me? :/ sorry...

The potentiometer I tried was 3W, 200Ohm...

Sooo... What can I change to make the circuit function better?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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If the resisitance of 200ohms is what you need try using one with a larger value say 50w, if you don't know if you need a lower resistance try like a 35ohm or something.
 
also thinking about building or buying a PWM circuit to turn your motor, its more efficient.
 
justinreeves said:
also thinking about building or buying a PWM circuit to turn your motor, its more efficient.
Yeah, I don't think you can effectively slow down your motor by dropping the voltage with a resistor. No wonder stuff is overheating. I believe that PWM is the right way to slow down the motor.
 
what's a PWM? :(
 
nevermind, i looked it up... thanks guys you've helped a lot, I'm going to replace the potentiometer with this: http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4432937f0304982a273fc0a87f9c06b4

sound good?
 
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If you're interested in learning more, here is a spiffy application of PWM (pulse width modulation) generated by a PC, used to control the speed of a DC motor (on a fan). Temperature is also sensed by the PC. Combining the two pieces of information, the speed of the motor is changed (increased/decreased) relative to the temperature in the environment, to maintain a constant temperature.:smile:
 
The radio control market has many different speed controllers for remote control vehicles and your battery is within the range of most of those applications.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0093p?&C=MJA

There are also variable resistor style speed controls for the small cars (that want to use an inexpensive method with a standard servo) and these are much closer to a rheostat that is designed to handle current (instead of a potentiometer that is NOT designed to handle current). But a PWM motor driving circuit is the way to go.

If you're linking to K3070 on that site, it'll work to a certain extent but is only good to 1A, and with a 12V battery that's 12W. Not a lot of power.
 
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was trying to link to K3072... don't know why that didnt work... but anyway, that one is good to 15A, i'd imagine that'll be enough?
 
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15A should be plenty enough for the size of battery you're running.
 
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eeeeeeeeeexcellent.

thank you very much
 
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The simplest way to generate a variable width PWM (pulse width modulation) signal is with a triangle wave (from an op amp oscillator) going into a second op amp used as a comparator (with potentiometer for voltage level input). FETs can be used for outputs up to about 15 amps, and IGBTs for currents up to 100's of amps.
 

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