What are the rules for solving inequalities involving logs?

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The discussion focuses on the rules for solving inequalities involving logarithms, particularly the implications of dividing by a logarithmic value. When dividing both sides of an inequality by a negative logarithm, the direction of the inequality changes, which is a common mistake. The logarithm of a number less than one, such as log(1/2), is negative, and this affects the outcome of the inequality. Additionally, the base of the logarithm matters; if the base is less than one, the logarithm of a number less than one will be positive, which can lead to different interpretations of the inequality. Understanding these principles is crucial for correctly solving logarithmic inequalities.
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Check this out:

1 < 2

\Rightarrow \frac{1}{4} < \frac{1}{2}

\Rightarrow (\frac{1}{2})^2 < \frac{1}{2}

\Rightarrow \log(\frac{1}{2})^2 < \log(\frac{1}{2})

\Rightarrow 2\cdot\log(\frac{1}{2}) < \log(\frac{1}{2})

\Rightarrow 2 < 1

What happened? What did I do wrong?
 
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what is log(1/2)?
 
I meant log base 10 of 1/2. I don't think it matters though...
 
it's still the same problem. As shmoe suggested, try calculating log(1/2) :-p
 
You divided both sides of the equation by log(1/2). What happens to an inequality when you multiply or divide by sides by a ____________? Once again, what is log(1/2)?
 
Swapnil said:
I meant log base 10 of 1/2. I don't think it matters though...

That wasn't what you were supposed to think. I hope the other questions have cleared up what was intended. This problem is usually the first 'trick' they play on you with logs, and the first one they explain.
 
HallsofIvy said:
You divided both sides of the equation by log(1/2). What happens to an inequality when you multiply or divide by sides by a negative number? Once again, what is log(1/2)?

I got it! I am so smart.:biggrin:
 
But you still haven't told us what log(1/2) is. And why that is important.
 
Its a negative number and in the last step I divide both sides of log(1/2) which changes the sense of the inequality.
 
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Thanks for this little thread. some of us are a bit slow on the uptake...
I was working on a different problem and this helped jog me into seeing that multiplication/division by a negative number constitutes changing the sign on both sides of the equation.

By the way, it does matter slightly what base is used. If the base is < 1, then log(x), where x < 1, will actually be positive. Then when you divide out the logs you won't change the inequality.
However, the results come out the same because you have to change the inequality at an earlier stage, namely when you first take logs. Taking logs with a base < 1 of both sides reverses the inequality.

E.g.
0.25 < 0.5
but for 0.1^x = 0.25, and 0.1^y = 0.5; x > y (when raising a number < 1 to a power, the larger the power the smaller the result)
 
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