Does Sin(3x) = 3sinx have a provable limit at theta = 0?

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The discussion centers on the limit of sin(3θ) as θ approaches 0 and whether it equates to 3sin(θ). It begins with the assertion that lim(θ→0) (sin(3θ)/θ) equals 3, based on the known limit of sin(θ)/θ equaling 1. However, participants highlight that dropping the limit in certain steps leads to invalid conclusions, particularly that sin(3θ) equals 3sin(θ) for all θ, which is not true outside of the limit context. The conversation acknowledges the "iffy" nature of these steps, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the limit during manipulations. Ultimately, the discussion reveals the complexities of limits in trigonometric functions.
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This is a bizarre little proof that is probably wrong, but I want to know where
\lim_{\theta\rightarrow0}\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = 3
This is provable quite easily, I don't think I need to do that atm...
well, we know that
\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 1
So that would imply that
3\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 3
thus implying that
\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 3
By substitution
\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}
(iffy step)
If you drop the limit on both sides...
\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta}=\frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}
Which oh so quickly becomes
\sin{3\theta}=3\sin{\theta}
 
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Wooh said:
\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}
(iffy step)
If you drop the limit on both sides...
\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta}=\frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}
Which oh so quickly becomes
\sin{3\theta}=3\sin{\theta}


Yes, that step is "iffy". With it, I can "prove" that sin(3θ) equals any function with the same limit as θ approaches zero. The step is invalid for the same reason that it is invalid to conclude that sin(3θ)=sin(θ) just because those two functions happen to be equal at θ=0.

edit: fixed quote bracket
 
Ok, cool, I can accept that. :)
 
Sure, for certain values of theta.

cookiemonster

Edit: What Tom said.
 
cookiemonster said:
Sure, for certain values of theta.

cookiemonster

Edit: What Tom said.
smartass :-p
 
Hey now, I was just saying the same thing Tom was. ;)

And getting to be a smartass is a privilege of being young!

cookiemonster
 
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