Volume of a tetrahedron using triple integration

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The problem involves finding the volume of a tetrahedron located in the first octant, bounded by the coordinate planes and a plane defined by three points: (1,0,0), (0,2,0), and (0,0,3). The context is within the subject area of multivariable calculus, specifically focusing on triple integration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the triple integral for calculating volume, with some questioning the limits of integration for z based on the relationship between x and y. There is also a mention of alternative methods for finding volume, including geometric approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the correct setup for the integration limits and exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some have confirmed their understanding of the volume calculation while others are still clarifying their reasoning.

Contextual Notes

There is a recognition of the need to avoid specific formulas in the solution process, as the original poster indicated a desire to understand the problem without relying on them, particularly in the context of a Calculus III test.

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Homework Statement



Find the volume of the tetrahedron in the first octant bounded by the coordinate planes and the plane passing through (1,0,0), (0,2,0) and (0,0,3)

Homework Equations



V=∫∫∫dV
...D


The Attempt at a Solution



I set up the problem as so:


1 -2x+2...-3x+3
∫ ∫...∫...dz dy dx
0 0...0

(the dots are not significant, they are only for spacing)

and integrated...

the result is -1, but this is wrong because:

1. a volume cannot be negative
2. the book answer is 1
 
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actually, i realize that the line should be

-1½x+3 instead of -3x+3

still, i get the answer as 2...
 
aliaze1 said:

Homework Statement



Find the volume of the tetrahedron in the first octant bounded by the coordinate planes and the plane passing through (1,0,0), (0,2,0) and (0,0,3)

Homework Equations



V=∫∫∫dV
...D


The Attempt at a Solution



I set up the problem as so:


1 -2x+2...-3x+3
∫ ∫...∫...dz dy dx
0 0...0

How did you get z= -3x+3 for the upper limit? Doesn't z change as y changes?

(the dots are not significant, they are only for spacing)

and integrated...

the result is -1, but this is wrong because:

1. a volume cannot be negative
2. the book answer is 1

aliaze1 said:
actually, i realize that the line should be

-1½x+3 instead of -3x+3

still, i get the answer as 2...
Again, you should not be thinking of a line. The first integral should be from the xy-plane up to the plane forming the upper boundary.

First, as I presume you have done, draw a picture. The base, in the xy-plane, is the triangle bounded by the x-axis, the y-axis, and the line from (1,0) to (0,2): its equation is y= 2- 2x. Obviously, we can cover the entire triangle by taking x running from 0 to 1 and, for each x, y running from 0 to 2-2x. The plane through (1, 0, 0), (0, 2, 0), and (0, 0, 3) has equation
x+ \frac{y}{2}+ \frac{z}{3}= 1
or
z= 1- 3x-\frac{3y}{2}
The volume is given by
\int_{x=0}^1\int_{y= 0}^{2-2x}\int_{z=0}^{1-3x-\frac{3y}{2}} dzdydx
Integrate that and see what you get.
 
honestly, this problem can be made very easy like this:
volume= 1/3height * area of base. Height is z=3, area of base is the area of a right triangle with two sides being 1 and 2. Therefore, V=1.
 
Yes. In fact, the volume of any tetrahedron with vertices at (a, 0, 0), (0, b, 0), and (0, 0, c) is (1/6)abc but I assumed from the original post that he wanted to do this without using specific formulas.
 
thanks for your help everyone, indeed the issue was the Z limit...and yea i needed to know how to do it without specific formulas (it was on a Calculus III test) but I did use the formulas to confirm my answer
 

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