Natural Logarithm of Negative Numbers

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The discussion centers on solving the equation (-2)^n = 16 using natural logarithms. While n=4 appears to be a solution, it is established that n=4 is not the only solution due to the multivalued nature of logarithms. The correct approach involves using the principal value of the natural logarithm, represented as Ln(x), and incorporating periodicity through arbitrary integers k and m. This leads to the conclusion that n=4 is one of infinitely many solutions, with n=4 being the only pure real solution.

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prasannapakkiam
Well I came across this when someone asked me this question:

(-2)^n = 16

I can clearly see n=4. However, he did this:

ln((-2)^n) = ln(16)
n*ln(-2) = ln(16)
n*ln(2)+n*i*pi = ln(16)

How can I show that n=4 from this?
 
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It's because n=4 isn't the only possible solution. Remember that log is a multivalued function (like arcsin) -- so introduce the necessary parametrisation, and see that it can be set to zero.
 
Log is a multivalued function since e^x is a periodic function. Remember that Euler showed that

e^{ix} = \cos{x} + i\sin{x} and hence we have that e^x = e^{x + 2\pi i n and more general since a^x = e^{\ln{a} x} it's true that a^x is a periodic function.
 
Can someone please Exemplify? I get what they say; but I am still stuck...
 
prasannapakkiam said:
However, he did this:

ln((-2)^n) = ln(16)
n*ln(-2) = ln(16)
n*ln(2)+n*i*pi = ln(16)

How can I show that n=4 from this?

You can't, because your friend made a mistake. As written, n=4 is not a solution. He should have used

\begin{align*}<br /> \ln(-2) &amp;= \text{Ln}(2) + (1 + 2k) \pi i \\<br /> \ln(16) &amp;= \text{Ln}(16) + 2m\pi i<br /> \end{align*}

where \text{Ln}(x) is the principal value of the natural logarithm and k and m are abitrary integers.

Applying the above to n\ln(-2) = \ln(16) yields

n(\text{Ln}(2) + (1 + 2k) \pi i) = \text{Ln}(16) + 2m\pi i

From this you should be able to show that n=4 is but one of infinitely many solutions and also that n=4 is the only pure real solution.
 
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Thanks for all your input. In the end I see that it is quite a simple problem. However, thanks for putting me on track...
 

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