Was the Universe Not Perfectly Homogeneous at Photon-Decoupling?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of the universe at the time of photon-decoupling, specifically whether it was perfectly homogeneous or anisotropic. Participants explore the implications of Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) fluctuations and their relation to the density of dark matter, addressing theoretical aspects of homogeneity and isotropy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that CMB fluctuations indicate a lack of homogeneity at photon-decoupling, linking these fluctuations to varying dark matter densities.
  • Another participant argues that the universe is statistically homogeneous and isotropic when averaged over small-scale fluctuations, which are relatively minor (about 1 part in 100,000).
  • A further contribution emphasizes that fluctuations are due to different densities in matter, implying a lack of homogeneity.
  • Another viewpoint presents a nuanced perspective, stating that spatial dispersion relates to inhomogeneity while angular dispersion relates to anisotropy, suggesting that anisotropy of the CMB may stem from inhomogeneity of matter, though this cannot be experimentally verified.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between homogeneity and anisotropy, with no consensus reached on whether the CMB fluctuations are primarily indicative of inhomogeneity or anisotropy.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of experimental verification regarding the inhomogeneity of the CMB and the challenges in measuring these properties at sufficient distances in space.

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Hi guys

Please take a look at this familiar picture: http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/galaxies/wmap_map.jpg

Does this imply that the universe was not perfectly homogeneous or that it was anisotropic at the time of photon-decoupling?

Since the CMB-fluctuations are because of the different dark-matter densities, I would say that it is because of lack of homogenity. Am I corret?
 
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Strictly speaking, it is neither homogeneous nor isotropic.
The Universe is (more or less) statistically homogeneous and statistically isotropic averaged over all small scale fluctuations of density, temperature, velocity and grav.potential.
Those fluctuations are actually small - only about 1 part in 100,000 (they are enhanced for the picture).
 
But if to be very correct, the fluctuation are because of different densities in matter, so it must be lack of homogeneity?
 
It's a matter or your personal preference.
Spatial dispersion is usually being related to inhomogeneity,
angular dispersion - to anisotropy. Thus people usually prefer to say that anisotropy of CMB is caused by inhomogeneity of matter. You can say, as well, that inhomogeneity of CMB is caused by anisotropy of matter. Unfortunately, we cannot experimentally prove the second case, since we cannot travel in space far enough to measure CMB inhomogeneity.
Mathematically:
Inhomogeneous=>anisotropic, isotropic in every point => homogeneous.
 
Excellent, thanks!
 

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