Solve Quarry Crane Problem: Find Rope 2 Tension

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The discussion centers on solving for the tension in rope 2 of a quarry crane lifting a granite block. The setup involves two poles, one vertical and one angled, with the tension in rope 2 balancing the weight of the block. Participants emphasize the importance of resolving angles and recognizing the isosceles triangle formed by the two poles to find the necessary relationships. The solution requires applying torque principles about point O, equating the moments caused by the tension and the weight. Ultimately, triangle geometry is identified as a key tool in solving the problem.
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A quarry crane is used to lift massive rocks from a quarry pit. Consider the simplified model of such a crane shown in the figure. The ends of two poles are anchored to the ground at the same point (point O). From this point, one pole rises vertically and the second pole rises at an angle. The vertical pole has its free end connected to the ground via an unstretchable, massless rope labeled rope 1. A second rope, labeled rope 2, connects the free ends of the two poles. The angle between the tilted pole and rope 2 is tither. Both poles have length and can be considered massless for the purposes of this problem. Hanging from the end of the second pole, via rope 3, is a granite block of mass m.

Throughout this problem use g for the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity.

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Find tension in rope 2.

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i tried to find torque about point O, but i couldn't resolve the angles. i know that the moment about O caused by tension in rope two should be equal to moment about O caused by the weight mg.
 
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yandao87 said:
i tried to find torque about point O, but i couldn't resolve the angles. i know that the moment about O caused by tension in rope two should be equal to moment about O caused by the weight mg.

I'd resolve the angles. With the 2 poles the same length, recognize that you have an isosceles triangle and that the other angle at the top will also be θ.

That means you can resolve the bottom angle and hence the angle that the pole holding the m*g is making with the horizontal.
 
yes I've solved it. thank you. i need to use triangle geometry.
 
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