Force: max tension before rope breaks

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The maximum tension that each rope can sustain is 4000 N, leading to a calculated maximum hanging weight of 3464 N for the rope at a 60-degree angle. The total weight both ropes can support is 6928 N, assuming the weakest rope dictates the limit. A free body diagram is recommended to analyze the forces at the junction of the ropes and the metal cable. The equilibrium of forces must be maintained, with horizontal forces being equal, indicating that tensions in each rope may differ. The calculations confirm that using the maximum tension for one rope allows for solving the weight supported accurately.
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Homework Statement



If the maximum tension either rope can sustain without breaking is 4000 N, determine the maximum value of the hanging weight that these ropes can safely support. You can ignore the weight of the ropes and the steel cable.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I figured out that the rope with the 60 degree angle will have the greater tension therefore being able to hold a less amount of weight.

so i did 4000*sin(60)=W

W=3464 Newtons

so the rope that can hold the least amount of tension will be able to hold 3464 N.

i then doubled this to get 6928 N and that is the total weight both ropes can hold if the max tension of the weakest rope can support 4000 N.

Does this sound correct?

Thank you
 
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You should draw a free body diagram and get the forces acting on the middle point where the metal cable and ropes meet.
Fy: T1sin(40) + T2sin(60) - mg = 0
Fx: T1cos(40) - T2cos(60)= 0
 
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Hmm I'm not so sure it's that easy, I assume that the block must remain in equilibrium and therefore the horizontal forces must be equal aswell, i'd make sure they are. The tensions in each rope may not be the same!

damn that guy above me editing >.<
 
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korican04 said:
You should draw a free body diagram and get the forces acting on the middle point where the metal cable and ropes meet.
Fy: T1sin(40) + T2sin(60) - mg = 0
Fx: T1cos(40) - T2cos(60)= 0

Thank you. that worked great and makes sense. i just used 4000 N for T2 on the Fx then solved for T1 then plugged that into the other equation and got the weight :)

thanks again.
 
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