Calculating Vectors: Help Needed for Test - Pamela

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The discussion revolves around vector calculations, specifically focusing on the subtraction of vectors, their magnitudes, and unit vectors. The original poster, Pamela, expresses confusion regarding the notation and the operations involved with vectors C and D.

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  • Participants discuss the notation used for vectors and suggest clarifying the base vectors. There are attempts to break down the components of the vectors and explore how to perform vector operations such as addition and subtraction. Questions arise about the correct interpretation of the vector components and notation.

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Some participants have provided clarifications on vector notation and operations, while others are still questioning the initial setup and definitions. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of different interpretations of the vectors involved.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the notation used for the vectors, specifically whether the components are correctly identified as x, y, and z. There is also mention of differing conventions for representing vectors, which may affect understanding.

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Please Help! I just don’t get it and I’ve been studying for hours.

Question :
Knowing that Vectors C = (4x-1y-3z) meters and D=(2x-3y-5x) meters
Determine
a. S=C-D
b. │S
c. The Unitary vector in the direction of S

My Prof has given us a test one week after the first class and I just don’t get these study questions. I can add and multiply vectots but this stuff I just don’t get and there is no one to help.

If anyone out there can help you’ll really be appreciated

Pamela
 
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I don't get your notation. What are the base-vectors describing the directions ?

Something like 6e_x + 7e_y. The e_x and e_y denote the x and y direction and these are the base-vectors. 6 and 7 are the components so this vector may also be written as (6,7).

When adding or substracting just add or substract all components per direction. So for example (7,8) - (1,1) yields (6,7) or 6e_x + 7e_y

Multiplying means multiply the components per direction and add up the outcomes: so this means (7,8)*(1,2) = 7*1 + 8*2 = 7+16=23

If you take the squareroot of this you get the length of a vector = sqrt(23) like your question b.

But first of all you need to know the components per direction. What are these j and m?
Are you sure you got the notation right? Just wondering


regards
marlon
 
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Thanks Marlon I made the changes by editing my post. Maybe now my question is easier to understant

Pamela
 
ppacc said:
Please Help! I just don’t get it and I’ve been studying for hours.

Question :
Knowing that Vectors C = (4x-1y-3z) meters and D=(2x-3y-5x)

So you have (4,-1,-3) and (-3,-3,0)

I think you are able to continue right now. Just do what a answered in the first post

marlon
 
for example a would be (7,2,-3) or S =7x + 2y - 3z

regards
marlon
 
It is more common to use i, j, and k where you are using x, y, z but I think I understand what you mean:

C = (4x-1y-3z) is what I would call 4i-1j-3k or, more simply just <4, -1, -3> where the basis vectors are understood to be in the x, y, z, directions.

So, C= <4, -1, -3> and D= <2, -3, -5>. Surely your text bood mentions early that vectors written in "component" form can be added and subtracted just by working with each "component" separately. S= C- D is simply <4- 2, -1-(-3),-3-(-5)> =
<2, 2, 2>.

The length of a vector comes from the Pythagorean theorem: [itex]\sqrt{2^2+ 2^2+ 2^2}= \sqrt{12}= 2\sqrt{3}[/itex].

A "unitary" vector (I would say "unit" vector) in a given direction is a vector of length 1 in that direction. In particular, for any vector S, to find a unit vector in the same direction, just divide S by its length: S/|S| which is, again, done component by component. In this problem, since S= <2, 2, 2> and |S|= [itex]2\sqrt{3}[/itex], The unit vector in the direction of S would be [itex]\frac{<2, 2, 2>}{2\sqrt{3}}[/itex].
That is, of course, [itex]\{\frac{1}{\sqrt{3},\frac{1}{\sqrt{3},\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}>[/itex]. It is in the same direction as S simply because it has all components the same and its length is [itex]\sqrt{\frac{1}{3}+\frac{1}{3}+\frac{1}{3}}= 1[/itex].
 
Isn't the second vector 2x-3y-5x? Or is it 2x-3y-5z. In that case my previous answer is not true. Then you would have (4,-1,-3) - (2,-3,-5)=(2,2,2)

marlon
 

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