Lorenz velocity transformation

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The problem involves calculating the relative velocity of two particles in a high-energy accelerator experiment, each moving towards each other at a speed of 0.9520c as measured in the laboratory frame. The context is rooted in the principles of special relativity and velocity transformation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct reference frames for the problem, with some confusion about which frame is unprimed and which is primed. There are attempts to clarify the setup and the application of the velocity addition formula.

Discussion Status

Some participants have reached a numerical answer for the relative velocity, while others express uncertainty about the reference frames and the assumptions being made. There is a recognition of differing interpretations regarding the setup of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of adapting to the conventions of special relativity, particularly in identifying which frame is at rest. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the problem setup to facilitate understanding.

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Homework Statement


the particles in a high energy accelerator experiment are approaching each other head on, each with speed of 0.9520c as measured in laboratory. what is the magnitude of the velocity of one particle relative to the other?


Homework Equations


vx = vx' + u / 1 + (uvx' / c2)

The Attempt at a Solution



i can't work out the variables.

the two reference frames are:
1. the lab
2. one of the particles

but that means vx = 0.

so I am lost..
 
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Hi ProPatto16! :smile:

Using the example of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addition_of_Velocities_Formula" , one particle is the shore, the ship is the lab, and the other particle is the fly :wink:
 
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You might be getting confused because you're assuming the lab is the unprimed frame, like it usually is in other relativity problems. In this problem, though, it's the primed frame.

Code:
                       vx'
1--->        L        <---2

           u           vx
1        <---L      <-----2
 
do you get v of particle one to particle 2 to be 0.99879c?
 
yeah that part did catch me out. i assumed the first reference frame was lab at rest. but its actually particle 1 at rest with lab approaching at 0.9520c right?
 
Yup, I got the same answer.
 
thanks. i don't have the open mind i need for relativity. i just need the question set up for me than I am right
 

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