Is the Square Root of Pi Irrational?

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The discussion centers on proving the irrationality of the square root of pi. A proof is presented that assumes √π is rational, leading to the conclusion that π itself must also be rational, which contradicts the established fact that π is irrational. This contradiction demonstrates that √π must also be irrational. Participants clarify that the proof effectively supports the idea that if pi is irrational, its square root is likewise irrational. The conversation emphasizes the logical connection between the irrationality of pi and its square root.
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A question in my book says to prove that pi is irrational, I found a proof which I'm happy with and found a similar one on the web however on the solutions they have done:

assume √π is rational i.e \sqrt{\pi} = \frac{p}{q} p,q \in \mathbb{Z}
\pi = \frac{p^2}{q^2}, p^2,q^2 \in \mathbb{Z} ∴ \pi \mathrm{is\ rational}

∴ contradiction √π irrational,

could anyone explain how it's a contradiction? I've pasted exactly what they have in the solution
 
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The proof shows that if pi is irrational then so is its square root. Presumably that is what the question asked, or intended to ask.
 
haruspex said:
The proof shows that if pi is irrational then so is its square root. Presumably that is what the question asked, or intended to ask.

that makes much more sense, heh.
 
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Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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