How Much Would You Weigh on Neptune?

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Neptune's mass is 17.2 times that of Earth, and its radius is 3.88 times larger. A person weighing 176 lbs on Earth would weigh approximately 201.08 lbs on Neptune, despite a common misconception that their mass would change. The weight calculation involves using the gravitational force formula, but mass remains constant at about 80 kg. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding that while weight varies with gravity, mass does not. Ultimately, using ratios simplifies the calculation process significantly.
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Neptune has a masss 17.2 times larger than that of Earth and a radius 3.88 times larger. A person weighing 176 lb on the Earth would weigh how much on Neptune?

Earth's mass is 6x10^24; Earth's radius is 6.4x10^6. Neptune's mass is 1.032x10^26; Neptune's radius is 24832000. 176 lbs is 80 kgs.




Weight (or Force) = G\frac{Mplanet\bullet Mperson}{r2}

G (universal) = 6.7x10^-11
Mperson for Earth = 80 kgs
Mplanet for Earth = 6x10^24 kgs
r for Earth = 6.4x10^6

Mperson for Neptune = ?
Mplanet for Neptune = 1.032x10^26
r for Neptune = 24832000



Every time I try to solve for the mass of the person on Neptune, I keep getting around 70 kgs, which is 154 lbs. The correct answer according to my online homework system is 201.084048 lbs.

First, I solve for Force on Earth. I plug all four values into the equation to get 785.15625 Newtons.

Second, I then plug the answer above into the Force value to solve for Mperson on Neptune. To isolate Mperson I multiply both sides of the equation by r^2, divide both sides of the equation by G, and divide both sides of the equation by Mplanet. The answer I get is 70.02 kgs, which is 154.05 lbs. That is not the correct answer.


I know that all I really need to do is divide 3.88^2 by 17.2, then multiply that value by 176, but I want to find out what I'm doing wrong. I don't want to use any shortcuts until I actually understand the long process.

Thanks!
 
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davev said:
Neptune has a masss 17.2 times larger than that of Earth and a radius 3.88 times larger. A person weighing 176 lb on the Earth would weigh how much on Neptune?

Earth's mass is 6x10^24; Earth's radius is 6.4x10^6. Neptune's mass is 1.032x10^26; Neptune's radius is 24832000. 176 lbs is 80 kgs.

Weight (or Force) = G\frac{Mplanet\bullet Mperson}{r2}

G (universal) = 6.7x10^-11
Mperson for Earth = 80 kgs
Mplanet for Earth = 6x10^24 kgs
r for Earth = 6.4x10^6

Mperson for Neptune = ?
Mplanet for Neptune = 1.032x10^26
r for Neptune = 24832000
Every time I try to solve for the mass of the person on Neptune, I keep getting around 70 kgs, which is 154 lbs. The correct answer according to my online homework system is 201.084048 lbs.

First, I solve for Force on Earth. I plug all four values into the equation to get 785.15625 Newtons.

Second, I then plug the answer above into the Force value to solve for Mperson on Neptune. To isolate Mperson I multiply both sides of the equation by r^2, divide both sides of the equation by G, and divide both sides of the equation by Mplanet. The answer I get is 70.02 kgs, which is 154.05 lbs. That is not the correct answer.


I know that all I really need to do is divide 3.88^2 by 17.2, then multiply that value by 176, but I want to find out what I'm doing wrong. I don't want to use any shortcuts until I actually understand the long process.

Thanks!

You are going the long way around. Mperson on Earth=Mperson on Neptune and it's about 80kg. You don't need to solve for a different mass on Neptune. Mass doesn't change. Only the weight changes.
 
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Dick said:
You are going the long way around. Mperson on Earth=Mperson on Neptune and it's about 80kg. You don't need to solve for a different mass on Neptune. Mass doesn't change. Only the weight changes.

Okay, I see what you're saying. I made a note in my notebook regarding universality of mass too, haha. I can't believe I skipped past that.

So if I plug the value for Mplanet of Neptune, Mperson, r^2 of Neptune, and G, then I will get around 897.06 N. I just convert this into pounds right?
 
davev said:
Okay, I see what you're saying. I made a note in my notebook regarding universality of mass too, haha. I can't believe I skipped past that.

So if I plug the value for Mplanet of Neptune, Mperson, r^2 of Neptune, and G, then I will get around 897.06 N. I just convert this into pounds right?

Sure, but as you said, just using ratios is the easy way to do it.
 
Dick said:
Sure, but as you said, just using ratios is the easy way to do it.

Thank you!
 
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