F(f(x))= (x^4)-4(x^2)+2, find f(x).

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The discussion centers on finding the polynomial function f(x) such that f(f(x)) equals (x^4) - 4(x^2) + 2. Participants clarify that f(f(x)) is a composite function, not the square of f(x), which is a common misconception. Attempts to express f(x) as a polynomial lead to equations based on coefficient comparisons, but issues arise when trying to solve for specific values. The complexity of the polynomial and the need for careful evaluation of terms are emphasized. Ultimately, the challenge lies in correctly interpreting the function composition and deriving the appropriate polynomial form.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


f(f(x))= (x^4)-4(x^2)+2,



The Attempt at a Solution


[f(x)]^2=
(x^4)-4(x^2)+2=
[(x-2)^2]-(4x^2)+2

i can't seem to square root (x^4)-4(x^2)+2...
 
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GreenTea09 said:

Homework Statement


http://postimg.org/image/48919pl1x/


Homework Equations


f(f(x))= (x^4)-4(x^2)+2,



The Attempt at a Solution


[f(x)]^2=
(x^4)-4(x^2)+2=
[(x-2)^2]-(4x^2)+2

i can't seem to square root (x^4)-4(x^2)+2...

The question states that f(x) is a polynomial. Use this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynomial
 
ok,i tried this solution
let f(x)=a(x^2)+bx+c
(a(x^2)+bx+c)*(a(x^2)+bx+c) =(x^4)-4(x^2)+2

comparing the coefficient of x^2
2c+b^2=-4 ---eqn(2)
comparing the coefficient of constant,
i get a c value of sqrt2 and -sqrt2
which i try to fit into eqn(2) but dosent work out..
 
f(f(x)) must also be evaluated on the bf(x)+c terms!
 
GreenTea09 said:

Homework Statement


http://postimg.org/image/48919pl1x/
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GreenTea09 said:

Homework Equations


f(f(x))= (x^4)-4(x^2)+2,

The Attempt at a Solution


[f(x)]^2=
No one else pointed this out, so I will. f(f(x)) is not the same as [f(x)]2.
GreenTea09 said:
(x^4)-4(x^2)+2=
[(x-2)^2]-(4x^2)+2

i can't seem to square root (x^4)-4(x^2)+2...
That's not relevant here, since you are not being asked to solve for f(x) in the equation [f(x)]2 = ...

What you're working with is a composite of f with itself -- (f o f)(x) --, not the square of f(x).
 
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