How Do You Solve These Harmonic Motion Problems?

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The discussion revolves around two problems related to harmonic motion and energy conservation. The first problem involves the oscillation period of a meter stick when its length is altered, while the second problem concerns the stretching of a net when a person jumps onto it, modeled as a spring.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of ratios to relate the periods of oscillation based on the moment of inertia. Questions arise about how to determine the new mass for the altered length of the meter stick. In the second problem, attempts to apply energy conservation principles are noted, with participants questioning the interpretation of gravitational potential energy and its application in the context of the net's behavior.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress on the first problem, while others express confusion regarding the second problem, particularly about the concept of the lowest point of motion. Guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of spring constant and gravitational potential energy, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. Assumptions about uniform density and the behavior of the net as a spring are also under discussion.

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please help me with these two problems:

1. A meter stick is hung at its center from a thin wire It is twisted and oscillates with a period of 6.06 s. The meter stick is sawed off to a length of 72.4 cm. This piece is again balanced at its center and set in oscillation. With what period does it oscillate?

2. A 53.7 kg person jumps from a window to a fire net 20.4 m below, which stretches the net 1.19 m. Assume that the net behaves like a simple spring, and calculate how much it would stretch if the same person were lying in it.

for number one, I tried to set up a ratio T1/T2 = sqrt(I1/I2) where T1 is the period given and I am trying to find T2, but I=(1/12)ml^2 but I can't find the new mass for I2.

for number 2 I thought I could set up a energy equation where
mgh = (1/2)Kx^2 where x = 1.19 and h = 20.4, then I solved for K. once I got K I used K = mg/l to solve for l but I get the wrong answer. please help!
 
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killerb3756 said:
for number one, I tried to set up a ratio T1/T2 = sqrt(I1/I2) where T1 is the period given and I am trying to find T2, but I=(1/12)ml^2 but I can't find the new mass for I2.
You don't need the mass, just the ratio between the masses. If a meterstick (100 cm) has a mass of m, what must be the mass of the 72.4 cm piece? (Assume the meterstick has uniform density.)

for number 2 I thought I could set up a energy equation where
mgh = (1/2)Kx^2 where x = 1.19 and h = 20.4, then I solved for K. once I got K I used K = mg/l to solve for l but I get the wrong answer. please help!
Calculate the gravitational PE from the lowest point of the motion.
 
thanks I got the first one, but I still don't understand the second one. what do you mean the lowest point of motion?
 
thanks so much for your help.
 

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