Decoherence Definition and 177 Threads
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B What is Decoherence and How Did Bohr and Einstein Debate Its Implications?
Hi, I'm in ninth grade, and I can't really grasp an idea of how decoherence works. Also, does anyone know where I can good information on what was discussed in the debates between Bohr and Einstein. It seems really interesting.- Navid Eghbali9
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- Decoherence Work Young
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I Do we still experience quantum effects in decohered systems?
As I understand it, decoherence is when the quantum system becomes entangeld with the measuring quantum system. If most of the macroscopic systems we experience are all decohered, then why do we still see quantum effects like in a transistor? Is it position AND momentum that decohere?- jaydnul
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- Decoherence
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I What is the speed of decoherence and its predictions for coherent systems?
Does anyone know or know of the general predictions of the speed at which of coherent system losses coherence to contact with a decoherence system? Is that speed limit faster than the cosmic speed limit?- Binax011
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- Decoherence Speed
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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A Experiments probing the macroscopic limits of QM
This thread is to serve as both a compilation and ground of discussion of key experiments, both historical and planned, which attempt to probe possible macroscopic limits of QM, taking into account e.g. some particular gravitational/optical/mechanical/superconducting/etc aspect and/or...- Auto-Didact
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- Decoherence Experiment Experiments Gravitation Limits Macroscopic Macroscopic quantum Qm
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A Weinberg: detecting changes to QM using atomic clocks
Steven Weinberg has lately been critical of QM. He now also has a technical paper out called 'Lindblad Decoherence in Atomic Clocks', available on arxiv. Here is the abstract: It's a short paper (6 pgs of text), arguing for objective collapse (a la GRW/Diosi-Penrose/etc) instead of...- Auto-Didact
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- Atomic Atomic clock Clocks Decoherence Macroscopic quantum Qm Weinberg
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B Marble Ball as a Subsystem in Quantum Decoherence
Can a marble ball be considered as a subsystem of an entangled system where it is entangled with the environment? Or is "subsystem" in entanglement/docoherence only reserved for small quantum thing like electrons or photons?- oquen
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- Decoherence
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I Decoherence and standard formalism
In the standard mathematical formalism, the environment were treated classically, this is because observers (being macroscopic recording mechanisms) are treated classically, so the system is isolated. Decoherence is about open system, so how is decoherence compatible with Copenhagen or the...- fanieh
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- Decoherence Standard
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B Decoherence thought experiment
Let's say a memory qubit inside a quantum computer is in state ## α \left|1\right>+β\left|0\right> ## This computer is equipped with a device that emits photons that carry the same qubit as the aforementioned memory location. Alice and Bob, that are very far from each other, receive and...- jartsa
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- Decoherence Experiment Thought experiment
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B Is it a myth that serves as motivation for decoherence?
This paper about Quantum Darwinism https://arxiv.org/pdf/0903.5082v1.pdf starts with statement: "The quantum principle of superposition implies that any combination of quantum states is also a legal state. This seems to be in conflict with everyday reality: States we encounter are localized...- zonde
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- Decoherence Motivation
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I Decoherence and time reversal asymmetry
Layman question(s), but I hope not too stoopid -- many thanks to anyone with the patience to read and attempt even part of an answer, or share a possibly relevant link! I've got time today to follow and read links... 1) Saw a recent 'popular' article discussing that darn Cat as if still a...- Charlie313
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- Asymmetry Decoherence Reversibility Second law of thermodynamics Time Time reversal
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B What Causes Decoherence in Quantum Systems?
A question about page 6 of https://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0101077v1.pdf "The second unanswered question in the Everett picture was more subtle but equally important: what physical mechanism picks out the classical states — face up and face down for the card — as special? The problem was that...- bluecap
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- Decoherence
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B Is Consciousness Influencing Branch Selection in Quantum Decoherence?
After decoherence, is there something wrong if the branch chosen would be selected by consciousness? So there is ambient consciousness that select default branches and human consciousness can bias which branches chosen? Is there any experiment that has excluded this possibility?- fanieh
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- Decoherence
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A Given decoherence, do we still need random quantum jumps and
This thread was posted and discussed on Physics Overflow, I am re-posting it here to hear other opinions. http://www.physicsoverflow.org/36063/given-decoherence-still-random-quantum-jumps-interpretations? Environmental decoherence explains how the wavefunction of a quantum system q, as a result...- Giulio Prisco
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- Decoherence Quantum Quantum measurement problem Random
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I Does macro-object get entangled?
Suppose we have a pair of entangled particles. Suppose the first particle of the pair interacts with a macro-object and decoheres. Does the macro object get entangled with the second particle?- entropy1
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- Decoherence Entangled Entanglement
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I What is Quantum Decoherence and How Does it Affect Quantum Systems?
So I whilst understanding basics of some quantum phenomena like superposition, tunnelling, fluctuations etc I happened to watch the movie "Coherence" where there's a scientifically unsatisfactory reference to quantum decoherence. What exactly is this concept?- Katyan Anshuman
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- Decoherence Modern physics Physics Quantum Quantum coherence Quantum decoherence Quantum mechanics
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I Quantum decoherence superposition of macroscopic object
I've seen a couple of lectures by Penrose where he describes an experiment to test superposition of physical location of a very small, but macroscopic object. I can't find a reference to it online, but the experiment involved sending a photon through a half-mirror, and depending on the route...- Quantum of Solace
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- Decoherence Macroscopic Quantum Quantum decoherence Superposition
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I What happens to Quantum decoherence at Absolute Zero?
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- Absolute Absolute zero Coherence Decoherence Quantum Quantum decoherence Zero
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B Decoherence and Counterfactual Definiteness
Hi, In Decoherence all is quantum, is there a Counterfactual Definiteness in Decoherence?- gva
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- Decoherence
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I Quantum to Classical: "comprehensible"?
Is this statement true? >>... over the past several decades we’ve come to understand that the classical and quantum worlds don’t exactly operate by “different” rules. Rather, the classical world emerges from the quantum in a comprehensible way: you might say that classical physics is simply...- 1977ub
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- Classical Decoherence Quantum
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B Nature of collapse / does collapse exist?
I learned that the moment a wavefunction collapse takes place is a matter of interpretation. So, I suppose the phenomenon 'wavefuntion collapse' is something that has to be witnessed by observation at some point to be able to establish it at all! So my question is: if collapse doesn't actually...- entropy1
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- Collapse Decoherence Measurement Nature Wavefunction
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B Equivalence of entanglement and decoherence?
Just taking an advance in what I want to learn someday: I understand that decoherence and entanglement are more or less equivalent. So, I take it decoherence is in principle a process of entanglement. Consider two particles A and B who are entangled. if A decoheres by interacting with particle...- entropy1
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- correlation decoherence entanglement equivalence
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What is the Poynting "vector" mathematically?
Hi. The Poynting vector is a 3-tuple of real or complex numbers (depending on the respective formulation of electrodynamics) times a unit. It may be pictured as an arrow with some length and direction in IR^3 or IC^3. But is it a "vector" in the strict mathematical sense, i.e. an element of a...- greypilgrim
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- Decoherence Interference Poynting vector Vector Vector space
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I Keeping a subspace decoherence free, with the Zeno Effect
I am currently reading papers discussing the Zeno Effect, which discuss how measuring a system at high frequencies can almost freeze the state of a system, or keep the system in a specific subspace of states. This can be easily seen using the projection postulate. Often the topic of decoherence...- qwertuiop
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- Decoherence Measurement Quantum Quantum mechahnics Subspace Zeno
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A How Does the Presence of Gas Affect Decoherence in a Stern-Gerlach Experiment?
In this paper Caldeira gives a model for the Stern Gerlach device in the vacuum. the incoming particle is described by the tensor product of a space term and a spin term a |u> + b |d> the SG is in the vacuum (no air around). Under the effect of the spatial variation of the magnetic field, there...- naima
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- Decoherence Gerlach Stern Stern gerlach
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B Does Photon Emission Cause Decoherence?
In the never ending quest to understand a complicated idea for which I completely lack the academic requirements to do so, I'd like to ask a few basic questions that I hope will allow simple yes/no responses (to ease the frustration of the physicist/mathematician contributors). Sadly, the...- Feeble Wonk
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- Decoherence Emission
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Can decoherence be formulated in the Heisenberg picture?
In another thread, stevendaryl and I were trying to understand whether MWI can be formulated in the Heisenberg picture. Since neither of us really understands MWI, I tried to retreat to safer ground by asking: Can decoherence be formulated in the Heisenberg picture?- atyy
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- Decoherence Heisenberg heisenberg picture Picture
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Can All Particles of a Cat Be in Superposition Simultaneously?
Hi guys, just a quick question. This is an idea that came up to my mind while thinking about decoherence and stability of macroscopic objects in the world. As we know all superpositions and interference effects are destroyed in a enormously tiny timescale, and as Mfb mentioned it is...- durant35
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- Decoherence
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Decoherence and apparent collapse
Can anybody explain what is the difference between apparent collapse and collapse? I've read that decoherence leads to apparent collapse but what does that mean, is there an eigenstate after decoherence but its not known why did it occur. I don't understand it all.- durant35
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- Collapse Decoherence
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I How Does Environmental Interaction Affect Quantum Decoherence and Localization?
Can anybody explain this quote from stanford encyclopedia: Indeed, while it is well-known that localised states of macroscopic objects spread very slowly with time under the free Schrödinger evolution (i.e., if there are no interactions), the situation turns out to be different if they are in...- durant35
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- Decoherence
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B Decoherence and the Dust Particle
The concept of environmental decoherence has been a perpetual thorn in my brain despite an embarrassing amount of time contemplating the idea. At this point, I'm not even sure if I understand what it is purported to resolve. In many ways, it seems to me to be primarily a theory about logical set...- Feeble Wonk
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- Decoherence Dust Particle
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Decoherence in measurement apparatus
I was wondering about decoherence: Suppose a measuring apparatus measures a single quantum property (say, spin). After the actual measurement of the property has taken place, the result 'decoheres' into the apparatus until the apparatus shows the measurement result, after which it decoheres...- entropy1
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- decoherence measurement measurement apparatus
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Decoherence in the long time limit of density matrix element
For a state |\Psi(t)\rangle = \sum_{k}c_k e^{-iE_kt/\hbar}|E_k\rangle , the density matrix elements in the energy basis are \rho_{ab}(t) = c_a c^*_be^{-it(E_a -E_b)/\hbar} How is it that in the long time limit, this reduces to \rho_{ab}(t) \approx |c_a|^2 \delta_{ab} ? Is there some...- soviet1100
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- Decoherence Density Density matrix Density operator Element Limit Matrix Time
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Can decoherence validate the Copenhagen interpretation?
Hi, I am an amateur enthusiast and this is a direct question (not a proposal, I'm not nearly qualified to offer a proposal). I would like to throw to experts and people who are more qualified, because it's got me a bit stumped. Could I ask for an answer which is as simple as I am please, lols -...- Arfur
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- Copenhagen Copenhagen interpretation Decoherence Interpretation
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How can pure EM waves experience decoherence?
How do you treat decoherence in purely electromagnetic field? In other words, can EM field also have decoherence? How?- jlcd
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- Decoherence Em Field
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Can quantum decoherence be described as a causal interplay?
If yes, then how is it any different from other facts of causality, and why is there a puzzle? Can one not simply view quantum particle changes as the causal interaction between subatomic and macroscopic objects, yielding certain processes of behavior under physical law, depending on the...- Pleonasm
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- Decoherence Quantum Quantum decoherence
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B How Does Environmentally Induced Decoherence Affect Quantum State Reduction?
Despite the best efforts of some of PF's finest, I continue to struggle with the general concept of spontaneous quantum state reduction by means of environmentally induced decoherence. I think that much of my confusion lies in the confounding degree of ambiguity in the delineation between the...- Feeble Wonk
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- Decoherence
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Is Decoherence essentially a measurement? Then what?
2 basic questions from a non-physicist (sigh!). Is decoherence essentially a measurement? And if so is the system of quantum particles set into the classical world forever? Or is there a mechanism by which it will evolve again into a superimposed state? Secondly, if the particle (as in the 2...- rasp
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- Decoherence Measurement
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What Are the Key Questions Surrounding Quantum Decoherence?
Hi, I've been reading some (very) basic texts on decoherence and have some questions about it: 1. What is the difference between decoherence and dephasing? 2. Assuming decoherence, can we completely do away with collapse theories (i.e. theories in which wavefunction collapse must be...- greypilgrim
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- Collapse Decoherence Interpretation Many-worlds
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QM notes with entanglement, Bell, decoherence, etc.
Does anyone know of QM notes (or a review article) that covers entanglement, the measurement problem, Bell inequalities, decoherence, or the delayed choice experiment (or the more recent mesoscopic experiments). So to speak the more modern and the exciting aspects of QM. I think closest to that...- Lapidus
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- Bell Decoherence Entanglement Notes Qm
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Decoherence and double-slit with eraser
If I say that decoherence is an irreversible loss of information, then in the double-slit with erasure when initially decoherence has occurred with the measurement, and then after erasure of the information the state is again as it was at the beginning , how can this occur if the initial...- VALENCIANA
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- Decoherence Double-slit Eraser
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Quantum Quantum decoherence and measurement
I keep hearing about things like "quantum decoherence" and the notion that measurement doesn't need a conscious observer. However, I haven't really seen these topics discussed in any of the textbooks I've used (mostly on the level of Griffiths and higher). I haven't even seen a reference to...- thegreenlaser
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- Decoherence Measurement Quantum Quantum decoherence
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Gravitation and Decoherence : New Scientist Article
It says here that time dilation due to gravity can cause decoherence: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27735-Earth's-gravity-may-force-us-to-do-quantum-experiments-in-space.html But.. wouldn't the effect of time dilation be more like a modification of the expected unitary evolution, so...- Swamp Thing
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- article Decoherence Gravitation Scientist
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How/why decoherence rather than how/why coherence
Many discussions get around the subject of how / why does decoherence happen. Interaction with the environment, getting to macroscopic scale, irreversible change of information... Somehow they seem to imply that the natural state of things in the Universe is quantum coherence and then they ask...- Gerinski
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- Coherence Decoherence
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Why no decoherence after reflection from metal film
When photons reflect from a mirror coated with, say, an aluminium film... the reflection is presumably down to their interactions with free electrons in the metal (and each electron is in an unknown state before and after). Yet the interference does not go away if a mirror is inserted in one...- Swamp Thing
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- Decoherence Film Reflection
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Apparent 'stillness' of macroscopic systems
Hi fellow PFers, long time reader here. I have a query that was motivated by a comment on another thread (“Decoherence question”). It is about the quantum properties of decohered macroscopic systems. In my (incomplete and perhaps misapprehended) understanding, a macroscopic object, say a chair...- Oudeis Eimi
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- Decoherence Macroscopic Systems
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Why is Decoherence Needed in Quantum Mechanics?
I would like to understand why is decoherence needed in QM. As I understand decoherence models irreversibility. But if two quantum systems interact and resulting states are going in different directions they can't produce interference, right? Even if they do not interact with environment. So...- zonde
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- Decoherence
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Quantum Coherence - Decoherence Question
So I understand that as the number of entangled particles increases, observable quantum mechanical properties decrease to the extent that the mass of particles collectively loses its wave-particle character and behaves classically. In other words, the particles' collective position-space...- burke142
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- Coherence Decoherence In quantum mechanics Quantum Quantum coherence Quantum decoherence Quantum entanglement Uncertainty Uncertainty principle Wavefunction
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Classical states and decoherence
It is stated that classical states are robust against decoherence.. what would happen if classical states can decohere too? Or how do you imagine it for example occurring to a table.. How would the table look like if it suffers decoherence too? Would you fall down if you sit on one?- lucas_
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- Classical Decoherence States
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Can Quantum Decoherence Math Explain Color Charge States of Quarks?
I read up on quantum decoherence however the math was not explained clearly can someone explain it to me- Zachary Nichols
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- Decoherence Quantum Quantum decoherence
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Quantum Decoherence and deBroglie-Bohm theory
From time to time I hear that Quantum Decoherence can address the measurement problem only when accompanied by deBroglie-Bohm theory(dBB) (or any hidden variable theory? or MWI?). I want to know why is that? Also, I saw some papers recently(e.g. this) that prove dBB is incompatible with QM...- ShayanJ
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- Decoherence Quantum Quantum decoherence Theory
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- Forum: Quantum Interpretations and Foundations