141.30 how many points of inflection will the graph of the function have

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around identifying the number of points of inflection for the function defined by its derivative, specifically examining the second derivative and its roots. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding points of inflection and their conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the second derivative \(f''(x)=2x((x^2-4)^4-1)\) and identifies potential points of inflection at \(x=0\), \(x=\pm\sqrt{3}\), and \(x=\pm\sqrt{5}\), suggesting there are 5 points of inflection.
  • Another participant clarifies that while points of inflection occur where the second derivative is zero, not all such points are inflections, particularly if the root has even multiplicity, as demonstrated with the function \(f(x)=x^4\).
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the implications of points of inflection in relation to holes in the function.
  • A later reply suggests that a point of inflection can exist at a hole, using the example \(f(x)=\frac{x^4}{x}\) to illustrate that the origin can still be a point of inflection despite the function being undefined there.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definition of points of inflection but express differing views on the implications of multiplicity and the existence of inflection points at holes in the function. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which points of inflection can exist.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the role of multiplicity in determining points of inflection, and the discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of functions at points where they may not be defined.

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If the derivative of a function f is given by
$$f'(x)=\frac{1}{5}(x^2-4)^5-x^2$$
how many points of inflection will the graph of the function have?solution find $f"(x)$
$$f''(x)=2x((x^2-4)^4-1)$$
at $f''(x)=0$ we have factored
$$2 x (x^2 - 5) (x^2 - 3) (x^4 - 8 x^2 + 17) = 0$$
then
$$x=0\quad x=\pm\sqrt{3}\quad \pm\sqrt{5}$$
so we have 5 points of inflectionok I was wondering if this could be solved strictly by observation
also I used the $W\vert A$ to get $ f"(x)$

the only thing I know about finding inflexions is they are zero points of the second direvative of a function
where concave <---> convex
 
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A point of inflection will always be where the second derivative is zero, but not all places where the second derivative is zero will be a point of inflection. Any roots of the second derivative of even multiplicity will indicate that the second derivative does not change sign across that critical value. For the second derivative, a change in sign implies a change in the direction of concavity (up or down), and that's what is required.

For example, consider the function:

$$f(x)=x^4$$

We find:

$$f''(x)=12x^2$$

This has a root at \(x=0\), but it is of multiplicity 2, and so we know the sign of \(f''\) will not change across this critical value, therefore, the point \((0,0)\) is not a point of inflection.
 
thanks I didn't know that

however I assume that a point of inflection may exist even if it is a hole.
 
karush said:
thanks I didn't know that

however I assume that a point of inflection may exist even if it is a hole.

Yes, consider:

$$f(x)=\frac{x^4}{x}$$

The origin is still a point of inflection, even if the function is not defined there. :)
 

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