MHB 15.2.87 Write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

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The discussion focuses on combining two integrals into a single iterated integral. The first integral covers the region defined by \(e^y \leq x \leq e\) for \(0 \leq y \leq 1\), while the second integral covers \(e^{-y} \leq x \leq e\) for \(-1 \leq y \leq 0\). To express this as a single iterated integral, the limits for \(y\) in terms of \(x\) are determined to be \(-\ln{x} \leq y \leq \ln{x}\) for \(1 \leq x \leq e\). The final expression for the combined integral is thus established. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the regions of integration and their corresponding limits.
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Draw the regions of integration and write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.
$$\displaystyle\int_{0}^{1} \int_{e^y}^{e} f(x,y)\,dx\,dy + \int_{-1}^{0} \int_{e^{-y}}^{e}f(x,y) \,dx\,dy$$
ok haven't done this before so kinda clueless
 
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Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

karush said:
Draw the regions of integration and write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.
$$\displaystyle\int_{0}^{1} \int_{e^y}^{e} f(x,y)\,dx\,dy + \int_{-1}^{0} \int_{e^{-y}}^{e}f(x,y) \,dx\,dy$$
ok haven't done this before so kinda clueless

Let's begin with the first integral:

$$I_1=\int_{0}^{1} \int_{e^y}^{e} f(x,y)\,dx\,dy$$

We see that this region is:

$$e^y\le x\le e$$

$$0\le y\le1$$

We'll fill in that region with red. For the second integral, we have:

$$I_2=\int_{-1}^{0} \int_{e^{-y}}^{e}f(x,y) \,dx\,dy$$

We see that this region is:

$$e^{-y}\le x\le e$$

$$-1\le y\le0$$

We'll fill that region in with green...so we have:

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In order to write this as a single integral, we'll need to reverse the order of integration, and use vertical strips. Can you state the lower and upper limits for these vertical strips in terms of $y$?
 

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Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

the vertical strips in terms of y would be
$$-1\le y \le 1$$
 
Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

karush said:
the vertical strips in terms of y would be
$$-1\le y \le 1$$

Not even close. Draw in a vertical strip ANYWHERE in the region. It should be obvious that depending on where you draw it, the strip will have VARIABLE length.
 
Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

karush said:
the vertical strips in terms of y would be
$$-1\le y \le 1$$

I was kind of sloppy in my language before...you want the $y$-coordinates of the lower and upper ends of the strips (since the inner integral has the differential $dy$), but you want them in terms of $x$.

Does that make sense?
 
Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

so you mean

$1 \le x \le e $
 
Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

karush said:
so you mean

$1 \le x \le e $

No, the bottom of a vertical strip is on the curve:

$$x=e^{-y}$$

Now, we want to solve this for $y$...what do you get?
 
Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

$\ln {x} = -y$
$-\ln{x} =y$
 
Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

karush said:
$\ln {x} = -y$
$-\ln{x} =y$

Okay, good...how about the upper limit?
 
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Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

MarkFL said:
Okay, good...how about the upper limit?

I would presume simply
$\ln{x}=y$
 
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Re: 15.2.87 write the following integrals as a single iterated integral.

karush said:
I would presume simply
$\ln{x}=y$

Yes, and for the outer integral, you've already correctly stated:

karush said:
so you mean

$1 \le x \le e $

Putting everything together, what is the single iterated integral?
 

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