1st order transfer function from data

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This discussion focuses on modeling an RF attenuator as a first-order system represented by the transfer function Kdc / (Xs + 1). The user seeks to normalize the DC gain component for a unit step function rather than a 2.1V step input. The key takeaway is that the DC gain (KDC) can be calculated as the ratio of the steady-state output (css) to the constant input (r), specifically using the formula KDC = css/r. This approach ensures accurate analysis and design of the control loop.

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Hello,

Im trying to model an RF attenuator for use in a control system. The control voltage is from 0-2.1V and I
applied a step function signal from 0-2.1V and measured the output. I was able to model it as a first
order system in the form Kdc / Xs + 1.

The issue I'm having is understanding how to represent the DC gain component in the numerator. I understand
that the DC gain is the value that the output settles at, but I feel like I need to normalize it to
a unit step function rather than a 2.1V step.


I input 0dBm of RF power and step the control voltage from 0-2.1V and the output swings from -27.6dBm to
-1.4dBm. How would the DC gain be normalized to a unit step function input for analysis and design of
the control loop.

Thanks.
 
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havanna1 said:
I understand that the DC gain is the value that the output settles at, but I feel like I need to normalize it to a unit step function rather than a 2.1V step.

That's only true for a unit step response. In general, its DC gain is the steady-state gain to a constant input (if your system has a steady state), i.e. css = KDC*r ⇔ KDC = css/r, where css is the steady-state output and r is the constant input.

In short, measure the ratio of the steady-state output to the constant input.
 

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