2 Carts on a Track Compressed by a Spring -- What are their Velocities?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two carts on a track that are compressed by a spring. The original poster is exploring the total energy in the system and how it relates to the velocities of the carts when released.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the work-energy theorem to determine the velocities of the carts based on the potential energy of the spring. They initially calculate the velocities separately but question the validity of their approach when considering the distribution of energy between the two carts.
  • Some participants suggest using conservation of momentum as an additional relationship to solve for the unknown velocities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different conservation principles. The original poster has recognized the potential need for another equation to relate the velocities, and there is a suggestion to consider conservation of momentum, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that the potential energy of the spring is split between the two carts, which raises questions about how to correctly apply the work-energy theorem in this context.

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Homework Statement
Two frictionless carts, with masses mA=43mB and mB= 0.55kg are on a level track. The carts have an ideal spring between them with spring constant κ= 250J/m2. The carts are compressing the spring a distance xi= 25cm from its equilibrium position.
Relevant Equations
Potential Energy of A Spring: U = 1/2 K x^2
Work Energy Theorem W = Change in K
a)What is the total energy in the system?
Only energy acting on the system assuming the track is level and there is no potential energy of the carts, is the potential energy of the spring.
Comes out to 7.8125 using the potential energy of a spring equation.
b) What are their velocities if the carts are simultaneously released?
This is what stumped me, initially I started by doing separate work energy theorems for cart A and cart B.
W = 1/2 ma Vf^2
7.8125 = 1/2(.733)vf^2
Came out to Vfa = 4.616
Using the same equation Vfb came out to Vfb = 5.33
That gave me velocities that made sense, the heavier cart(A) had a lesser velocity then b.
But then I realized, that potential energy of the spring is split up between the 2 carts, so setting that potential energy equal to work for both equations was probably incorrect. This is where I'm stuck.
 
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Hi,

You already understand that the energy that is stored in the spring will be converted to kinetic energy of the carts and that the sum of the kinetic energies of the carts will be 7.8125 J. One relevant equation (energy conservation) used up. But there are two unknowns (the speeds) so another relationship (equation) will be needed. Know of any other variable (other than energy) that might be conserved ?

Oh, and, eh:
:welcome: !​
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OH I see now that I might be able to use conservation of momentum to solve this equation.
 
Bingo !
 

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