2018 [+2022 update] Football World Cup: Russia

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The discussion revolves around the 2018 Football World Cup held in Russia, with participants sharing their excitement, opinions on teams, and reflections on the tournament's implications. The conversation touches on various aspects such as team qualifications, fan experiences, and predictions for future tournaments, including the 2022 World Cup.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement for the 2018 World Cup, emphasizing the atmosphere and social interactions surrounding the event.
  • There is a notable discussion about Italy's failure to qualify for the World Cup, with some attributing it to the hiring of foreign players, while others suggest a lack of good Italian players is the primary reason.
  • Participants reflect on the popularity of soccer in the USA, with some noting its rise in status compared to other sports.
  • There are mixed feelings about teams that did not qualify, with expressions of sympathy for nations like Italy and Sweden.
  • Predictions are made regarding the final match, with some participants favoring Croatia over France based on team performance.
  • There are humorous exchanges about being "honorary Croats" and the cultural connections to the teams.
  • Speculation about the 2022 World Cup arises, with some participants noting a lack of enthusiasm for the upcoming tournament.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share excitement for the 2018 World Cup, but there are competing views regarding the reasons behind Italy's failure to qualify and predictions for future tournaments. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly regarding the implications of team compositions and future outcomes.

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Some statements reflect personal anecdotes and opinions, which may not represent broader trends or facts. Discussions about team performance and popularity are based on individual perspectives and may depend on regional contexts.

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Fans of soccer, particularly those interested in the World Cup, as well as individuals curious about the cultural impact of international sports events.

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Hello.

The Football World Cup for 2018 will be in Russia.
What do you think? Any opinions?
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/index.html
I can't wait!
Thanks.
 
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Can't wait to see it .
 
Personally, I can't wait to see the World Cup in 2018. Where it's held isn't quite as important to me.

The interesting fact this year is that Italy failed to qualify for the 2018 World Cup, for the first time since 1958.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/world/europe/italy-world-cup.html

To any Italian PF members, or fans of Italian soccer (i.e. called football in countries outside of Canada, US) -- my condolences!
 
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I like the party-like atmosphere you get everywhere. You can strike a conversation with almost anyone, asking them about any recent game. I know in some countries (almost) no one works during the games. Total quiet , except for the occasional shout of "Goal!" or " Oooooh..." (almost goal).
 
I am sad at all the great teams that did not qualify.
 
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It's soccer popular in the USA?
 
Grands said:
It's soccer popular in the USA?

Probably. Ask @Greg Bernhardt.

StatGuy2000 said:
Personally, I can't wait to see the World Cup in 2018. Where it's held isn't quite as important to me.

The interesting fact this year is that Italy failed to qualify for the 2018 World Cup, for the first time since 1958.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/world/europe/italy-world-cup.html

To any Italian PF members, or fans of Italian soccer (i.e. called football in countries outside of Canada, US) -- my condolences!

I have head (from my Italian friends!) that they did not qualify, because Italy has hired many foreign players to earn money and they lost. @Grands ?
 
ISamson said:
Probably. Ask @Greg Bernhardt.
I have head that they did not qualify, because Italy has hired many foreign players to earn money and they lost. @Grands ?
Yes, there are a lots of foreign player in Italy, but this is because actually there aren't many good italian players, not because of money.
 
Grands said:
Yes, there are a lots of foreign player in Italy, but this is because actually there aren't many good italian players, not because of money.

I heard it from my Italian friends!
What happened to all those Juventus, Milan, Inter players??
 
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Inter have a lots of foreign players, it's just the fact that there aren't many italian good players, and you can see that also in the past competitions Italy didn't play very well
 
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Grands said:
It's soccer popular in the USA?
I believe last year it overtook Hockey as the 4th most popular sport. Which doesn't seem impressive, but it is.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
I believe last year it overtook Hockey as the 4th most popular sport. Which doesn't seem impressive, but it is.
And a big disappointment that U.S squad did not qualify.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
I am sad at all the great teams that did not qualify.
On behalf of the Scotland team the (former) Scottish manager, and the Scottish people, I thank you. :smile:
 
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I feel sorry for Sweden. What happened? It reminds me a bit of the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Except the Patriots at least scored. That's the first and probably the last time I get emotional about an NFL game. Too much stress and I was crushed at the end.

I'm happy that England is getting so close. It's about time. Now that France has (barely) defeated Belgium, I'm really on edge. Will it be England vs France in the final game? Talk about historic.

If it's England vs France, this would be so exciting. Good thing I don't gamble. I don't need to worry about the odds.

Tomorrow it's England vs Croatia. Super!
 
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Any Croats here (except me)? :smile:
 
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Cheering for Croatia. Nice to see a fresh face.
 
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Well, it's going to be France vs Croatia for the final game of the 2018 World Cup!

I'm not particularly a fan of either nation's soccer teams (i.e. football for those outside of North America), but my bet (based on how the teams have performed thus far) is that Croatia will beat France to win the World Cup.

For the 3rd place spot (between Belgium and England), my suspicion is that Belgium will beat England (like they did in the group rounds), as I personally think that Belgium has the stronger team.

We'll see if I'm right!
 
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Demystifier said:
Any Croats here (except me)? :smile:
I suspect many of us here will consider ourselves "honorary Croats" on Sunday. :cool:

I see the FOX TV network is going to carry the game in the US, which is good for me because I can get it with my terrestrial antenna. I don't have cable or satellite TV, and my internet connection isn't fast enough for decent streaming.
 
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jtbell said:
I suspect many of us here will consider ourselves "honorary Croats" on Sunday. :cool:

I see the FOX TV network is going to carry the game in the US, which is good for me because I can get it with my terrestrial antenna. I don't have cable or satellite TV, and my internet connection isn't fast enough for decent streaming.
Many places selling food with Mexican/Hispanic employees will likely be showing it. That's what I have used, since I have no TV service. And I understand Spanish, so I can watch Telemundo and understand.
 
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jtbell said:
I suspect many of us here will consider ourselves "honorary Croats" on Sunday. :cool:
Supporters distribution for the FIFA World Cup Final :biggrin:
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Demystifier said:
Supporters distribution for the FIFA World Cup Final :biggrin:
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It is possible that people in Quebec (a predominately French-speaking province of Canada settled by French settlers back in the 17th and 18th centuries) might cheer for France for the World Cup.

Otherwise the map is accurate! :biggrin:
 
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Allez les bleus !
 
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jtbell said:
I suspect many of us here will consider ourselves "honorary Croats" on Sunday. :cool:

Not me! Jammy Bar Stewards! :cry:
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Just kidding! Well deserved!

p.s. vive la France! :wink:
p.p.s. "Bar Stewards" is a way of getting away with calling people a naughty word in polite company, like in front of your Mum. :smile:
 
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Well, I did say "many", not "all." :oldwink:

Under most circumstances I'd probably go with France because my wife teaches French. But this is a real "Cinderella" situation here. And we do have a slight personal connection to Croatia: one of her grandfathers was born in an area that was once part of Croatia (actually Croatia-Slavonia), back when it was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire.
 
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StatGuy2000 said:
I'm not particularly a fan of either nation's soccer teams (i.e. football for those outside of North America), but my bet (based on how the teams have performed thus far) is that Croatia will beat France to win the World Cup.
We'll see if I'm right!

FRANCE 4 . CROATIE 2
La messe est dite
I like when north america people speak about football (sorry soccer)
 
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PSRB191921 said:
FRANCE 4 . CROATIE 2
La messe est dite
I like when north america people speak about football (sorry soccer)

Well, I've been wrong before about football/soccer!
 
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So who do you think will win the World Cup in 2022? Croatia like in 2018? :wink:
 
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PSRB191921 said:
So who do you think will win the World Cup in 2022? Croatia like in 2018? :wink:
Apparently not much enthusiasm for the cup in 2022.
 
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WWGD said:
Apparently not much enthusiasm for the cup in 2022.
I tried with a couple of comments, no one seemed interested. Final on Sunday, France looking very good.
 
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