232.q1.2c Double integral with absolute value in integrand

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral involving an absolute value in the integrand, specifically the integral $\displaystyle \int_{-1}^{1} \int_{-2}^{3}(1-|x|) \,dy\,dx$. Participants explore the implications of the absolute value and the properties of the integrand.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to handle the absolute value in the integrand given the limits of integration.
  • Another participant suggests that the integrand is an even function and proposes using the even function rule to simplify the integral by removing the absolute value.
  • A subsequent post reiterates the even function argument but raises concerns about the presence of negative values of $x$ in the integration limits.
  • Further contributions clarify the steps to rewrite the integral, emphasizing that the integrand can be treated as a function of $x$ only, allowing for the application of the even function rule.
  • Participants calculate the integral iteratively, leading to a proposed value of $I = 5$, but the reasoning and steps taken to arrive at this conclusion are not universally agreed upon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the treatment of the absolute value in the integrand, as some participants support the even function approach while others express uncertainty about its application due to the limits of integration. The final value of the integral is proposed but not universally accepted.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the implications of the absolute value in the context of the given limits, and there are unresolved steps in the iterative calculation of the integral.

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$\displaystyle \int_{-1}^{1} \int_{-2}^{3}(1-|x|) \,dy\,dx$

ok i was ? about the abs
 
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Re: 232.q1.2c dbl int with abs

The integrand is an even function, and the $x$ limits are symmetric, so apply the even function rule to remove the absolute value...:)
 
Re: 232.q1.2c dbl int with abs

MarkFL said:
The integrand is an even function, and the $x$ limits are symmetric, so apply the even function rule to remove the absolute value...:)

but some of this is in $-1 \le x \le 1$ how can you remove the abs
 
Re: 232.q1.2c dbl int with abs

karush said:
but some of this is in $-1 \le x \le 1$ how can you remove the abs

We are given:

$$I=\int_{-1}^{1}\int_{-2}^{3} 1-|x|\,dy\,dx$$

Now, since the integrand is a function of $x$ only, we can write:

$$I=\int_{-1}^{1}\left(1-|x|\right)\int_{-2}^{3}\,dy\,dx$$

Apply the even function rule:

$$I=2\int_{0}^{1}\left(1-x\right)\int_{-2}^{3}\,dy\,dx$$

Now iterate...:D
 
Re: 232.q1.2c dbl int with abs

MarkFL said:
$$I=2\int_{0}^{1}\left(1-x\right)\int_{-2}^{3}\,dy\,dx$$

Now iterate...:D

so then

$I = 2\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)(5) = 5$ ??
 
Re: 232.q1.2c dbl int with abs

karush said:
so then

$I = 2\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)(5) = 5$ ??

$$I=2\int_{0}^{1}\left(1-x\right)\int_{-2}^{3}\,dy\,dx=10\int_{0}^{1}\left(1-x\right)\,dx=5\left[2x-x^2\right]_0^1=5(2-1)=5\quad\checkmark$$
 

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