24 year old heading back to school

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The discussion centers around the challenges and preparations involved in returning to college, specifically for a degree in astronomy. Participants share their experiences and resources related to refreshing mathematical skills necessary for success in this field.

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  • One participant expresses concern about their math skills and seeks advice on how to prepare for college algebra, suggesting a review of high school algebra and algebra 2.
  • Another participant recommends starting from the last studied material and working backwards until a solid understanding is found, regardless of how far back that may be.
  • A suggestion is made to use "kind" college texts that review algebra, highlighting a specific book, "Basic Mathematics for the Physical Sciences" by Robert Lambourne and Michael Tinker, as a gentle introduction to university mathematics.
  • Participants mention the utility of resources like public libraries and online platforms for finding suitable mathematics materials.
  • One participant shares their experience of brushing up on math through specific online resources and videos, indicating that these helped them prepare for their astrophysics major.
  • A free algebra book is recommended, which includes solutions for self-checking, though caution is advised against becoming overly reliant on it.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of reviewing foundational math skills, but there are multiple approaches suggested for how to effectively prepare. No consensus on a single best method or resource is reached.

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A quick bit about myself, I went to college for 2.5 years right out of high school(I ended with a 3.0 gpa), that was about 5 years ago now. I am now wanting to go back to college to finish my degree. My major back then was Business Management, however I have lost all interest in that field and would like to pursue a degree related to astronomy. Now to the hard part, I've not been good at math since middle school and any degree related to astronomy is grounded in math. This summer I will be taking college algebra, but I'm worried that even this could be too advanced for me and I would like to start preparing for the class now, but not entirely sure where to start. Should I review back into high school algebra and algebra 2, anything else I should go back and review? While I was in college I did take a college algebra level class and got a B, but I know I have forgotten a lot since then. In the fall semester I plan on taking trigonometry and an introductory physics class.
 
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Start with the last thing you studied and keep working backwards until you find a point where you understand everything, regardless of how far back it is. Use that as the point to begin your revision.
 
The "kindest" college texts do a review of algebra, you would probably find it less frustrating to tackle one of these rather than a school book. By studying the early parts of such a text you will not only learn some algebra but find out exactly what you don't know, and need to fix, before going to college.

The one that many UK university physics departments recommend for first year physicists is:

Basic Mathematics for the Physical Sciences by Robert Lambourne, Michael Tinker

It's also the set book for the UK Open University. It's a very gentle, hand-holding introduction to University mathematics for scientists. It has to be gentle because Open University is for mature distance learners who (like you) may not have done school mathematics for a few years. But it also has useful features like "fast track" questions that test if you need to read the following chapter - saves a lot of frustration for adults who know the stuff already... all in all, it's a good book for adults with varying capabilities in Mathematics - from hardly any to former high school maths whiz...

Here's a good overview of this and other books from a UK university site:

http://walet.phy.umist.ac.uk/P101/index.php?doc=Info

Now you will probably get lots of other book recommendations - to decide, use Amazon "Look Inside" to see which ones make sense to you... buy the one that makes most sense...

Also check out your local public library, talk to the librarians, see what books they recommend for someone in your position.
 
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mal4mac said:
The "kindest" college texts do a review of algebra, you would probably find it less frustrating to tackle one of these rather than a school book. By studying the early parts of such a text you will not only learn some algebra but find out exactly what you don't know, and need to fix, before going to college.

The one that many UK university physics departments recommend for first year physicists is:

Basic Mathematics for the Physical Sciences by Robert Lambourne, Michael Tinker

It's also the set book for the UK Open University. It's a very gentle, hand-holding introduction to University mathematics for scientists. It has to be gentle because Open University is for mature distance learners who (like you) may not have done school mathematics for a few years. But it also has useful features like "fast track" questions that test if you need to read the following chapter - saves a lot of frustration for adults who know the stuff already... all in all, it's a good book for adults with varying capabilities in Mathematics - from hardly any to former high school maths whiz...

Here's a good overview of this and other books from a UK university site:

http://walet.phy.umist.ac.uk/P101/index.php?doc=Info

Now you will probably get lots of other book recommendations - to decide, use Amazon "Look Inside" to see which ones make sense to you... buy the one that makes most sense...

Also check out your local public library, talk to the librarians, see what books they recommend for someone in your position.

Thanks for the reply, I will look into that book right away as it sounds exactly like what I need.
 
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http://www.totallyfreemath.com/

While you decide, here's a free algebra book. The advantage to this is that it also provides solutions, so if you ever fill the need to check your work, this may help, just don't get dependent on it.
 
I was 23 when I started college a year ago (Astrophysics major) and I brushed up on my math from www.yaymath.org (go to videos) and www.mathtv.com/ and started calculus with mit single variable calculus on youtube.
 

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