242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/[x( ln x)^2]

  • MHB
  • Thread starter karush
  • Start date
  • Tags
    Ln
In summary, the conversation revolved around solving the integral $\int_2^4\frac{1}{x(ln x)^2}dx$, with various approaches being suggested, such as using a substitution and changing the limits of integration, and integrating by parts. The conversation also touched on the importance of paying attention to the original problem and correcting any errors, such as the incorrect integral in the title of the thread. In the end, the correct solution was obtained as $\frac{1}{2ln2}-\frac{1}{ln4}$.
  • #1
karush
Gold Member
MHB
3,269
5
$\Large{242.Q2.3a} \\
\text{find the integral} \\
\displaystyle
\int_2^4 \frac{dx}{x( ln\, x)^2} $
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

Where did you get this question?
 
  • #3
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

karush said:
$\Large{242.Q2.3a} \\
\text{find the integral} \\
\displaystyle
\int_2^4 \frac{dx}{x( ln\, x)^2} dx$
Yes this has 2 dx so ??
One problem is that you have too many "dx"s. :)

Hint: Do you know of a relationship between ln(x) and 1/x?

-Dan
 
  • #4
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

karush said:
$\displaystyle \text{Find the integral: } \; \int_2^4 \frac{dx}{x(\ ln x)^2} $

$\displaystyle \text{We have: }\;\int (\ln x)^{-2\,}\frac{dx}{x} $

$\text{Let }u \,=\,\ln x \quad\Rightarrow\quad du \,=\,\frac{dx}{x}$

$\displaystyle \text{Substitute: }\;\int u^{-2}du$

$\text{Got it?}$
 
  • #5
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

$\Large{242.Q2.3a} \\
\text{find the integral} $
$$\displaystyle
I_{3a}=\int_2^4 \frac{dx}{x( ln\, x)^2}=\ln\left({2}\right) \\
u=\ln\left({x}\right) \ \ \ du=\frac{1}{x}\, dx $$
$\text{then} $
$$\displaystyle
I_{3a}
=\int_2^4\frac{1}{{u}^{2}}\, du
= \left[-\frac{1}{u}\right]_2^4$$
So far??
 
  • #6
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

When you use a substitution in a definite integral, you need to not only rewrite the integrand and differential in terms of the new variable, but you also need to change the limits of integration in accordance with your substitution. :)
 
  • #7
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

ok i keep forgetting to do so
 
  • #8
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

karush said:
$\Large{242.Q2.3a} \\
\text{find the integral} $
$$\displaystyle
I_{3a}=\int_2^4 \frac{dx}{x( ln\, x)^2}=\ln\left({2}\right) \\
u=\ln\left({x}\right) \ \ \ du=\frac{1}{x}\, dx $$
$\text{integrate and back substitute } u=ln(x)$
$$\displaystyle
I_{3a}
=\int_{\ln{2}}^{2\ln{2}}\frac{1}{{u}^{2}}\, du
= \left[-\frac{1}{\ln{x}}\right]
_{\ln\left({2}\right)}^{2\ln\left({2}\right)}$$
You didn't back substitute in you last step. It's \(\displaystyle \left[-\frac{1}{\ln{x}}\right]
_{2}^{4}\)

-Dan
 
  • #9
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

$\Large{242.Q2.3a} \\
\text{find the integral} $
$$\displaystyle
I_{3a}=\int_2^4 \frac{dx}{x( ln\, x)^2}=\ln\left({2}\right) \\
u=\ln\left({x}\right) \ \ \ du=\frac{1}{x}\, dx $$
$\text{back substitute } u=ln(x)$
$$\displaystyle
I_{3a}
=\int_{\ln{2}}^{\ln{4}}\frac{1}{{u}^{2}}\, du
= \left[-\frac{1}{\ln{x}}\right]
_{2}^{4}=
\frac{1}{\ln 2}-\frac{1}{\ln 4}$$
 
  • #10
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

karush said:
$\Large{242.Q2.3a} \\
\text{find the integral} $
$$\displaystyle
I_{3a}=\int_2^4 \frac{dx}{x( ln\, x)^2}=\ln\left({2}\right) \\
u=\ln\left({x}\right) \ \ \ du=\frac{1}{x}\, dx $$
$\text{then} $
$$\displaystyle
I_{3a}
=\int_2^4\frac{1}{{u}^{2}}\, du
= \left[-\frac{1}{u}\right]_2^4$$
So far??

The only thing you neglected in this approach was to change the limits...

\(\displaystyle I=\int_{\ln(2)}^{\ln(4)}\frac{1}{u^2}\, du=-\left[\frac{1}{u}\right]_{\ln(2)}^{\ln(4)}=\frac{1}{\ln(2)}-\frac{1}{\ln(4)}=\frac{1}{2\ln(2)}\)
 
  • #11
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

MarkFL said:
The only thing you neglected in this approach was to change the limits...

\(\displaystyle I=\int_{\ln(2)}^{\ln(4)}\frac{1}{u^2}\, du=-\left[\frac{1}{u}\right]_{\ln(2)}^{\ln(4)}=\frac{1}{\ln(2)}-\frac{1}{\ln(4)}=\frac{1}{2\ln(2)}\)

:cool:
 
  • #12
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

That was quite tricky, but solved.
 
  • #13
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

I notice that the integral in the title of this thread is [tex]\int_2^4\frac{1}{(x ln(x))^2}dx[/int] which is quite a different problem!
 
  • #14
Re: 242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/(x ln x)^2 dx

HallsofIvy said:
I notice that the integral in the title of this thread is \(\displaystyle \int_2^4\frac{1}{(x ln(x))^2}dx\) which is quite a different problem!

Thanks for the catch!...I have edited the thread title accordingly. :D
 

1. What is the meaning of "242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/[x( ln x)^2]"?

The expression "242.q2.3a Int_2^4 dx/[x( ln x)^2]" represents a definite integral, a mathematical concept used to find the area under a curve within a specific interval. In this case, it is the area under the curve of the function 1/[x( ln x)^2] between the values of 2 and 4.

2. How is this integral solved?

This integral can be solved using various techniques, such as substitution, integration by parts, or partial fractions. The specific method used will depend on the complexity of the integrand (the function being integrated).

3. Why is the denominator of the integrand squared?

The denominator of the integrand, [x( ln x)^2], is squared because it is an indeterminate form. This means that as x approaches 0, the function approaches infinity. Squaring the denominator helps to eliminate this indeterminacy and allows us to find the definite integral.

4. What is the significance of the interval [2,4] in this integral?

The interval [2,4] is the bounds of integration, which specify the range of values for x over which the integral is being evaluated. In this case, the integral is being evaluated from x = 2 to x = 4, meaning we are finding the area under the curve of the function between these two values.

5. What are the applications of this integral?

Integrals have many applications in various fields of science, including physics, engineering, and economics. In this specific integral, the function 1/[x( ln x)^2] can be used to model certain physical phenomena, such as the decay of radioactive materials. The integral can also be used to find the average value of the function over the given interval or to calculate probabilities in certain statistical distributions.

Similar threads

  • Calculus
Replies
5
Views
1K
Replies
14
Views
736
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
14
Views
1K
  • Calculus
Replies
2
Views
746
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
8
Views
178
Replies
3
Views
333
Back
Top