Expansion coefficient of liquid Propane ?

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The discussion centers on the expansion coefficient of liquid propane, with participants seeking specific data on its density at various temperatures and pressures. A user shares density figures from the Bitman CRC handbook, noting the density of liquid propane at 10 atmospheres and emphasizing the importance of temperature in calculations. There is a focus on the change in density between 353K and 293K, with a conclusion that the density reduction could be around 17.28%. The conversation also touches on the assumption that liquid propane is incompressible, questioning the relevance of pressure in this context. Overall, the thread highlights the need for accurate data on liquid propane's properties for better understanding and calculations.
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Hi

Does anyone have a figure for this.

I've trolled the net for nearly 2 hours now with no success.

Any help or guidance much appreciated.

Bitman
 
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CRC handbook lists the density at various temperatures fordifferent pressures:
At 1 atmosphere (gas)
T (k) density(mol/L)
250 0.050
275 0.045
300 0.041
325 0.037
350 0.035
375 0.032
400 0.030
450 0.027
500 0.024

At 10 atmospheres (liquid)
T (k) density(mol/L)
275 11.962
300 11.102
 
Also note that at 1 atmos and tempertures > 0C that mgb's figures agree with the ideal gas law with at most 2% error. So if you are working in this range then you don't need to look it up, you can calculate it.

PV = NRT

with N and P held constant.

dV/V = dT/T

or dV/dT = V/T
 
Hi

I'm really interested in the liquid properties. I can do the gas stuff (mostly, when I get the sums right :-0 ).

I'm interested in the change of density between 353k (448.9psi) and 293k(124.6 psi).

I thought as it was a liquid it was incompressable thus the pressure didn't matter. If so it should have a fixed coefficient of expansion.

Your figures, mgb_phys, at 10 atm seem to indicate -0.288% per degree C.

So assuming the pressure change is inconsequential I'm looking at a reduction in liquid density of 17.28%.

Thanks for the info and the time.

Please protest if you think these conclusions are incorrect.

Bitman
 
The handbook only gives 1Mpa and 10Mpa - you can interpolate the values you need.
1Mpa
275 = 11.962
300 = 11.102
325 - gas

10Mpa
325 = 10.860
350 = 9.973
375 = 8.905

293K/124.6psi looks very close to boiling point
 
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