Conservation of Momentum in a 2D Collision

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving the conservation of momentum in a 2D collision between two masses. The first mass, m1, has a final velocity calculated to be 16 m/s for the second mass, m2, indicating an inelastic collision since kinetic energy before and after the collision does not match. The conversation also addresses a subsequent collision involving a third mass, m3, and explores how to determine the final velocity of m1 after this interaction. Participants clarify the notation used for velocity vectors and suggest using conservation laws to find the new velocities. The final task is to determine if the two masses will collide again after 5 seconds, requiring an analysis of their paths.
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Homework Statement



Two masses, m1 = 4 kg and m2 = 12 kg, have initial velocities of v1i = 28 m/s [+x 35 +y] and v2i = [-y 60 +x]. If the first mass has a final velocity of v1f = 18 m/s [-y 40 +x], find:

a). The final velocity of m2.
b). Whether or not the collision can be said to be elastic.
c). If a thirst mass, m3 = 8 kg with an initial velocity of v3i = 45 m/s [+x 75 +y], were to strike the 1st mass 5 sec after the initial collision took place, will the first 2 masses ever collide again, and if so, where? Justify your answer. (Assume that this collision is elastic).


Homework Equations



P = mv
Pi = Pf
Eki = Ekf


The Attempt at a Solution



a). Using Pi = Pf, I got the velocity of m2 to be 16 m/s [+x 11 +y].

b). The answer I got was that collision is inelastic because,
Eki != Ekf
L.S = 2744 J
R.S = 2184 J
Since L.S is not equal to R.S the collision isn't elastic.

c). Here's the problem. They haven't given any information as to what happens after the collision so I don't know how to use Pi = Pf or Eki = Ekf here. Anybody have any pointers on how to solve this?
 
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have initial velocities of v1i = 28 m/s [+x 35 +y] and v2i = [-y 60 +x].
I don't understand your notation. Can you explain what [+x 35 +y] and [-y 60 +x] mean?

c). Here's the problem. They haven't given any information as to what happens after the collision so I don't know how to use Pi = Pf or Eki = Ekf here. Anybody have any pointers on how to solve this?
First you'll need the velocity of the first mass after its collision with the third mass. To find that, you'll need to use both momentum and energy conservation.
 
[+x 35 +y] is basically the same as [East 35 North] and [-y 60 +x] is [South 60 East].

I found the velocity of the first mass using this equation,

V1f = (m1-m3/m1+m3)v1i + (2*m3/m1+m3)v2i

The answer came up to be 9 m/s [East 80 North]

What next?
 
Figure out where m2 is at this time (5 seconds after the first collision), then see if their paths intersect.
 
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