3-4A too much load for a car battery?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of powering an LED array project from a car battery, specifically addressing the load of 3-4A and whether this can be safely supplied through a car's cigarette lighter. Participants also touch on legal considerations regarding vehicle lighting modifications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a load of 3-4A is manageable since their car consumes 10A while driving, and they have successfully used a higher load through the cigarette lighter.
  • Another participant warns about the risks of discharging a car battery too much when not running the engine, advising against letting the battery go below 50% capacity.
  • A leisure battery is proposed as a better alternative for deep discharge applications to avoid issues with starting the car.
  • Concerns are raised about the legality of flashy lighting devices on vehicles, with a suggestion to check local DMV regulations before proceeding with the project.
  • Participants discuss specific state restrictions on vehicle lighting colors and the potential classification of the LED display as emergency lighting, which could have legal implications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the safety and legality of the proposed LED array project. While some participants express confidence in the electrical load management, others emphasize caution regarding battery discharge and legal restrictions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about battery capacity, vehicle electrical systems, and local laws, which may affect the feasibility of the project. Specific details about the car battery's amp-hour rating and the exact specifications of the LED array are not provided.

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Hello,

So I have put into motion a plan to build an LED array that scrolls letters. I've got the hardware and coded the assembly to make it happen but I have not yet purchased things such as the LED's themselves or op-amps to drive them. I have calculated that the load will be around 3-4A worst case scenario (all 100 LED's lit, all IC's not idle). I plan on running this contraption off a car battery that also runs a car, and my question is is this an unreasonable load for it? Further, could such a load be supplied through the cigarette lighter?
 
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jhicks said:
Hello,

So I have put into motion a plan to build an LED array that scrolls letters. I've got the hardware and coded the assembly to make it happen but I have not yet purchased things such as the LED's themselves or op-amps to drive them. I have calculated that the load will be around 3-4A worst case scenario (all 100 LED's lit, all IC's not idle). I plan on running this contraption off a car battery that also runs a car, and my question is is this an unreasonable load for it? Further, could such a load be supplied through the cigarette lighter?

Should be no problem. My car consumes 10 amps of electrical power while driving with no accessories on. And my cigarette lighter didn't fail for quite some time after I plugged in a 15 amp air compressor.(It melted the thermal overload device).

Before buying all that stuff, you may want to check with your states DMV and see if what you are planning on building is legal. I've heard that too many flashy thingy devices on a vehicle are frowned upon in some areas.
 
Have to avoid discharging a car battery too much if you are not running the engine. If you are running the engine the alternator will be powering the device. Some people say don't let the battery go below 50% of its capacity. If it is a 40 amp-hour battery don't let it get down to 20 amp-hours... This is 5 hours at 4 amps. A leisure battery which can withstand deep discharge better and is used for medium current loads would be an alternative and you won't risk not being able to start the car. Should be ok via a cigar lighter socket as a cigar lighter is quite a high current device but make sure you are running through a 5 Amp fuse or circuit breaker.
 
Excellent. Thanks for the advice.

Before buying all that stuff, you may want to check with your states DMV and see if what you are planning on building is legal.

Good point. I have to figure out a creative way to make sure this contraption doesn't block my rear view.
 
One more suggestion: Some states have restrictions on what colors can be displayed on vehicle lighting - especially flashing lights. In Maine, only cop cars can have blue lights, though some ambulances/rescue vehicles can have red and blue. Fire response vehicles (even private vehicles of volunteer fire fighters) can display forward-facing or roof-mounted flashing red lights. Almost everybody else that wants to use flashing lights is restricted to amber (construction vehicles, private snowplows, etc). Be thorough in your investigation before you spend a lot of money, because lighted displays that change or flash etc might be equated with flashing emergency lighting. Good luck.
 

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