Solving Cable Tension and Moment Magnitude Problem

In summary, the problem involves finding the tension in rope AC, given that the tension in rope AB is 100lb and the magnitude of the moment about the origin is 1500 ft-lb. The position vectors and equations for finding the moments are provided, and the final answer can be found by adding the moments of AB and AC.
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Homework Statement


http://books.google.ca/books?id=nYR... you want the magnitude of the moment&f=false
The above link has a copy of the question. It is question 4.65 on page 144

If you can't see the picture here is the needed information:
pointA(0,8,0)-on tree
pointB(0,0,10)
pointC(14,0,14)

There is a cable from A to B with a tension of 100lb and onother cable from A to C with an unknown tention. If the magnitude of the moment about the origin(0,0,0) is 1500 ft-lb, what is the tension on rope AC?


Homework Equations


M=r * F


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the moment is equal to the position vector *(cross) the force in cartesian form, but how do you express the 100lb foce in rope AB in cartesian form? Do i even need to?

Also to find the final answer I am thining you have the equation:

1500 = the sum of both moment forces
 
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Hi sapphire4770, welcome to PF.
Position vector OA = 0i+8j+0k
Position vector OB = 0i +0j + 10k
Position vector OC = 14i + 0j + 14K
Vector AB = OB - OA. Similarly
Vector AC = OC - OA.
Now find the moments,
 
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Thanks for the help, but I'm still kinda confused.

Ok, so the vectors would be:
AB: [0,-8,10] or -8j +10k
AC: [14,-8,14] or 14i - 8i + 14k

To find the moment caused by AC do i simply multiply? 100[0,-8,10]? Or do i have to split up the 100 lb tension into its x y and z components and find the cross product?

Thanks again, any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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Find the vector OA. = 8(0i + j + 0k)
Find unit vector along AB and AC.
So the vector AB = 100/sqrt(164)[0i -8j + 10k]
The moment of AB about o is OAXAB.
Similarly find the vector AC and moment of AC about O. Since both of them are in the counterclockwise direction, add them to get net momentum.
 

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