What *would* the night sky look like if we could see the entire EM spectrum?

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The discussion explores how the night sky would appear if we could perceive the entire electromagnetic (EM) spectrum, with a focus on rescaling colors from red to violet based on wavelength. While images combining visible, infrared, and x-ray data show significant differences from the visible spectrum alone, the overall peak of radiation is expected to remain in the visible range due to stellar emissions. The conversation highlights the necessity of various telescopes designed to capture different frequency domains, emphasizing that the differences across the EM spectrum justify their existence. Some participants express curiosity about the potential visual representation of the night sky beyond the visible spectrum, considering how colors and features would change. Ultimately, the discussion underscores the complexity and richness of astronomical observations that extend beyond human color perception.
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Assuming, of course, that we simply rescaled our color perspectives so that longest wavelengths = red, shortest wavelengths = violet. Are there any such pictures?
 
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Not altogether unlike what we see in the visible spectrum. There is a bit more radiation at both ends, but, it does not make a dramatic difference.
 
You can no more conceive this than you can describe colour to a blind person. Any pictures we create of this would look the same to you as pictures that didn't include these wavelengths because you can't see them.

Any pictures that show wavelengths like x-ray can only do so if they are shifted into the visible spectrum.
 
Any pictures that show wavelengths like x-ray can only do so if they are shifted into the visible spectrum.

But that is what the OP suggested...
 
mr. vodka said:
But that is what the OP suggested...

My mistake. I read colour perception as meaning biologically changing rather than chaining the image.
 
I actually dug around for a night-sky-average spectrum in absolute units over many decades of wavelength, but couldn't find one so I don't know. But I would bet it would peak in the visible just like the spectrum that our eyes detect does, because most radiation comes from stars that have an effective blackbody spectrum that peaks in the visible. You would get a lot more "blue" from UV up through x-rays (variety of sources), and also a lot more "red" from warm dust down to the cosmic microwave background, but plotted in units like Ergs/s/eV/Sr I would bet it still peaks in the visible.
 
Chronos said:
Not altogether unlike what we see in the visible spectrum. There is a bit more radiation at both ends, but, it does not make a dramatic difference.
I beg to differ. That what we see in different frequency domains is dramatically different from what we see in the visible spectrum is the driving impetus behind the many different kinds of telescopes astronomers have developed. Astronomers use telescopes that range from long wave radio up to gammas. If what we saw was more or less the same across the EM spectrum there would be little justification for this plethora of devices, some of which are very expensive.
 
Whether it already exists or not: is there any reason to suspect the picture that the OP suggests can't actually be made? I think that would be a very interesting picture :)
 
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D H said:
I beg to differ. That what we see in different frequency domains is dramatically different from what we see in the visible spectrum is the driving impetus behind the many different kinds of telescopes astronomers have developed. Astronomers use telescopes that range from long wave radio up to gammas. If what we saw was more or less the same across the EM spectrum there would be little justification for this plethora of devices, some of which are very expensive.

I don't think that was the question, at least that's not how I interpret it. Obviously things can look dramatically different in different energy bands, but if the emission levels in those more-exotic bands is low then a detector with a flat response would hardly notice.
 
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Well, one example of how different things could look, if you could see magnetic fields, Jupiter would look something like this.
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Though I should note they have the wrong moonphase in that image, given the direction of the sun implied by the magnetic field and the moon are almost perpendicular to each other.
 
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I basically mean something like this -- going from the real-life, current visible spectrum slice and expanding it to where the bold lines are instead. Most of the matter that we are used to seeing with color, on our planet, would appear greenish, but we'd be able to see everything else, too, outside of the 390 to 750 nm range. I'm wondering what that would look like, or what the night sky would look like. I am just trying to understand what would look different and how.
 
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