8*8 blue dot matrix led display's specifications

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The discussion centers around the specifications of an 8x8 blue dot matrix LED display, specifically focusing on the radiant intensity coefficients that are not included in the technical datasheet. Participants explore the need for these coefficients in the context of optimizing light emission for a specific application.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the coefficients g1(i), g2(i), g3(i), and g4(i) related to the radiant intensity formula for the LED display.
  • Another participant notes the absence of such spatial distribution information in typical LED datasheets and suggests measuring the distribution if necessary.
  • A different participant shares a datasheet that includes intensity versus radiation angle but questions whether the desired coefficients can be derived from it.
  • Concerns are raised about the need for manufacturers to provide more detailed specifications in datasheets, as highlighted in a referenced paper.
  • The original poster expresses a need for these coefficients to optimize light emission for a target image using a specific algorithm.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of the desired coefficients in existing datasheets, and multiple views are presented regarding the necessity of measuring the distribution or obtaining the information from manufacturers.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in available datasheets and the potential need for additional measurements, as well as the lack of response from the manufacturer regarding the requested information.

judy_tab
Hey,

I want to ask you about the array led component: 1.9mm(0.8’’)8*8 blue dot matrix led displays

(model no:KWM-20882XBA).

<< Edit by Mentor to add link to datasheet >>[/color]
https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/datasheets/956datasheet.pdf

I saw the technical data sheet but I couldn’t find the specifications related to the radiant intensity with its coefficients that should be included in technical sheet related to it.

In fact, the coefficients I want to know about them are g1(i),g2(i),g3(i),g4(i) in the intensity formula:

I(teta(i),phi(i))=g1(i)*exp(-(log2(2))*((abs(teta(i))-g2(i)).^2)*((((cos(phi(i))).^2)/(g3(i))^2)+(((sin(phi(i))).^2)/(g4(i))^2)))

(where i is the led index in the matrix)

I’m in hurry and I really want to know these coefficient to use it.

Please provide me with informations about it.

I’m attaching a link that discuss about this purpose if I’m not clear.

Thanks



http://planck.reduaz.mx/~imoreno/Publicaciones/OptExpress2008.pdf.
 
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Welcome to the PF, Judy. :smile:

I don't think I've seen that kind of spatial distribution information for LEDs in the past on their datasheets. Can you post a link of an LED datasheet that does include those coefficients?

You may just need to end up measuring the distribution of that module if it's important in your application. Do you have the equipment in your lab to do that kind of measurement?
 
Actually I haven't found a datasheet that includes these total informations, however I found some that includes the intensity vs radiation angle.

This is a simple exemple of a datasheet that includes only the radiation pattern(intensity vs radiation angle):
http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/678/V02-0133EN0-908697.pdf

and if the radiation pattern is available, do you have any idea if we can get those parameters(g1i,g2i,g3i,g4i) like in the link pdf that I have attached before?

But, from this statement in the link I have attached and from the pictures posted at the end of the pdf link, I though there are informations about those specifications which must be provided by the manufacturer.

The statement is:
""Most manufacturers use θ1/2 (the view angle when radiant intensity is half of the value at 0°) to characterize the angular distribution of LEDs with a single intensity peak. This parameter is simply g31 if Eq. (1) has only one simple Gaussian, e.g. I(θ)=g11exp[-ln2(θ/g31) 2 ]; and this is related to c31 (i.e., c31=−ln2/ln(cosθ1/2)) if Eq. (2) has only one simple cosine power, e.g. I(θ)=c11[cos(θ)]c31 . Another attribute used is the total included angle, or θ90, which describes the cone angle within which 90% of the total flux is radiated. However, additional parameters are needed to render the shape of the radiation pattern. Therefore, we propose that the manufacturer should include a simple formula (like those reported here) with its coefficients in their technical data sheets.""

Unfortunately, I don't have the ability in equipment to do such measurement.
I also contact the manufacturer ADAFRUIT responsible of this led array component but they didn't answer yet.

Can you help me?
 
judy_tab said:
"Therefore, we propose that the manufacturer should include a simple formula (like those reported here) with its coefficients in their technical data sheets.""
So it sounds like the paper is just proposing that datasheets include more of this type of information. I'm guessing you will just have to measure it for now.

What is the reason you need this information? Is it important for some reason in your design that includes this display?
 
Actually, I want to optimize the light-emitted from this led array on a target image.
So, the algorithm that I work with includes calculating the appropriate intensity of the leds which includes these parameters.
 

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