80% Gasoline + 20% Kerosene = 20% more power?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of mixing kerosene with gasoline on engine performance, specifically focusing on power output and fuel consumption. Participants share personal experiments with different fuel mixtures in lawn mowers and vehicles, exploring the implications of these mixtures on engine operation.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports that a 20% kerosene and 80% gasoline mixture resulted in easier starting and better performance in a lawn mower, as well as a 20% increase in speed in a vehicle test.
  • Another participant questions the value of burning 20% more fuel for a 20% increase in power, suggesting that a reduction in fuel consumption would be more beneficial.
  • Concerns are raised about the need for more air to burn the additional fuel, given that the carburetor settings remained unchanged.
  • One participant mentions that the density and viscosity of the fuel mixture could affect the amount of fuel delivered through the carburetor orifice.
  • Another participant points out that kerosene is already a component of gasoline, challenging the analogy of mixing gravel with sand.
  • Historical context is provided regarding the use of kerosene in tractors, noting that it was used as a fuel after starting with gasoline.
  • Legal implications of using kerosene in vehicles are discussed, with references to fuel tax regulations and potential legal issues.
  • One participant expresses frustration at the focus on legality rather than the scientific aspects of fuel mixing and performance.
  • Another participant provides a technical note about the density and energy density of kerosene compared to gasoline, suggesting a net increase in power delivered per unit volume.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness and implications of mixing kerosene with gasoline. There is no consensus on the benefits or drawbacks of this practice, and multiple competing perspectives are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about fuel properties, such as density and energy content, but these are not fully resolved. The discussion also touches on legal considerations regarding fuel use, which remain unresolved.

  • #31
Engine air intake valve has 1 moving part. There is no way to keep it lubricated it burns off at 1600 degrees.
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  • #32
Pretty startling that nobody sells kerosene anymore. Did you ever learn the chemistry you needed to help your testing?
 
  • #33
chemisttree said:
Pretty startling that nobody sells kerosene anymore. Did you ever learn the chemistry you needed to help your testing?

I took chemistry in college 45 years ago. If you don't use it you loose it. I have forgotten more than I ever know. I have always wanted to take more chemistry. There could be some education chemistry on YouTube I need to look. It would be fun to take chemistry again but I will feel weird in a chemistry class with people 20 years old and me being older than the professor. I bet first question the professor asks me is, WHY are you here? LOL
 
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  • #34
Just as well. You wouldn’t learn how to address the kinds of questions you were asking in college chemistry. You would need to take an automotive engineering class to answer those kinds of questions.
 

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