A calculation about coherent state

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The discussion revolves around the properties and implications of coherent states in quantum optics, particularly in the context of laser modes and their time evolution. Participants explore specific equations related to coherent states and their average values, raising questions about their interpretations and derivations.

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  • Some participants question why the coherent state is represented as ##|\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)\rangle##, suggesting that the exponential term represents time evolution with the laser frequency.
  • There is a query regarding the meaning of ##\langle N \rangle = \alpha^2##, with a suggestion to express the number operator N in terms of the annihilation and creation operators to clarify its application.
  • Participants discuss the origin of the ##\cos(\omega_L t)## term in the average value equation, noting it arises from the combination of two exponentials, though the exact contributions are not fully analyzed.
  • One participant references a different text to compare the representation of coherent states, indicating that the form used in the Claude Cohen-Tannoudji book is consistent with the representation of complex eigenvalues.

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The discussion contains multiple viewpoints and interpretations, with no consensus reached on the specific questions raised. Participants express varying degrees of understanding and propose different approaches to the problems without resolving the uncertainties.

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Participants do not fully resolve the mathematical steps or assumptions underlying the equations discussed, leaving some aspects open to interpretation.

Robert_G
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Hi, there. The following is copied from a book " atom-photon interaction " by Prof. Claude Cohen-Tannoudji, Page 415.

If the laser mode is in a coherent state ##|\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)\rangle## with ##\alpha## being real, Then the average value

##\langle\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)|E(R)|\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)\rangle=\mathscr{E}_0 \cos(\omega_L t)##

with

##\mathscr{E}_0=2 \epsilon \sqrt{\frac{\hbar \omega_L}{2 \epsilon V}} \sqrt{\langle N \rangle}##

##\langle N \rangle = \alpha^2##

and

##E(R)=\sqrt{\frac{\hbar \omega_L}{2 \epsilon_0 V}}\epsilon_L(a+a^{\dagger})##

I do not understand it at all. I do know some thing about the coherent state.
such as

##a |\alpha\rangle = \alpha |\alpha\rangle##

and

##|\alpha\rangle = e^{-|\alpha|^2/2} \sum_n \frac{\alpha^n}{\sqrt{n!}}|n\rangle##

But I don't understand what's going on here.

(1) Why the coherent state is ##|\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)\rangle##?

(2) ##\langle N \rangle = \alpha^2## means ##\langle \alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)| N |\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)\rangle = \alpha^2##?

(3) Where does the ##\cos(\omega_L t)## come from in the first equation?
 
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Robert_G said:
(1) Why the coherent state is ##|\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)\rangle##?
The exponential is just the time-evolution with the laser frequency.

(2) ##\langle N \rangle = \alpha^2## means ##\langle \alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)| N |\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)\rangle = \alpha^2##?
Write N in terms of a and ##a^\dagger## and let them operate on the different sides, that should work.

(3) Where does the ##\cos(\omega_L t)## come from in the first equation?
It is composed of the two exponentials on the left side, but I didn't check in detail which part comes from what.
 
mfb said:
The exponential is just the time-evolution with the laser frequency.

Write N in terms of a and ##a^\dagger## and let them operate on the different sides, that should work.

It is composed of the two exponentials on the left side, but I didn't check in detail which part comes from what.

In a book called quantum optics by M.O.Scully, the eigen-state of the operator ##a## is written as ##|\alpha\rangle##, Here, in the book by Claude. the eigen-state is ##|\alpha \exp(-i\omega_L t)\rangle##. This is the same thing. The latter is just using the form of ##\rho e^{i \theta}## to represent the complex eigen-value of the ##a##.

am i right?
 

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