A conjugacy class under O(n), orthogonal projection

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The discussion revolves around the properties of conjugacy classes in the context of orthogonal projection matrices and their representation as submanifolds within the affine space of symmetric matrices. The original poster is exploring the definition and implications of a specific set of orthogonal projection matrices defined by their trace.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between the conjugacy class of a specific matrix and the set of orthogonal projection matrices. Some participants question the correctness of a derived expression and its implications. Others suggest looking into the diagonalization of symmetric matrices as a potential avenue for clarification.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some expressing confusion over specific calculations and definitions. There is acknowledgment of the need for further exploration regarding the nature of conjugacy classes as submanifolds, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions underlying the definitions of conjugacy classes and their properties in relation to manifold theory. Participants are also considering the implications of group actions on the structure of these classes.

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This is not really a homework question per se but I wasn't sure where else to put it:

In a script I'm reading the following set is defined:

[itex]P(n)_k := \{p \in S(n) | p^2 = p, \text{trace } p = k\}[/itex]

(i.e. the set of all real orthogonal projection matrices with trace k).

Now the following statement is made:

"[itex]P(n)_k[/itex] is a submanifold of the affine space [itex]S(n)_k[/itex] since it is the conjugacy class of the matrix [itex]p_0 = \begin{pmatrix}I_k && 0 \\ 0 && 0\\ \end{pmatrix}[/itex], i.e. the orbit of [itex]p_0[/itex] under the action of the group O(n) on S(n) by conjugation."

([itex]S(n)_k[/itex] is the set of all real symmetric matrices with trace k.)

I don't understand the second part of this statement. The conjugacy class should be:

[itex]\{Ap_0A^{-1} | A \in O(n)\} = \{Ap_0A^{t} | A \in O(n)\} =[/itex]

[itex]\{\begin{pmatrix}a_{11}^2 && 0 && ... && 0 && ... && 0 \\ 0 && a_{22}^2 && ... && 0 && ... \\ 0 && 0 && ... && a_{kk}^2 && ... && 0 \\ 0 && 0 && 0 && 0 && ... && 0\end{pmatrix} | (a_{ij}) \in O(n)\}[/itex]

and I don't see why this equals [itex]P(n)_k[/itex]. (Or maybe my calculation is wrong.)
 
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I'm lost at how you found

Sajet said:
[itex]Ap_0A^{t}=\begin{pmatrix}a_{11}^2 && 0 && ... && 0 && ... && 0 \\ 0 && a_{22}^2 && ... && 0 && ... \\ 0 && 0 && ... && a_{kk}^2 && ... && 0 \\ 0 && 0 && 0 && 0 && ... && 0\end{pmatrix}[/itex]

That doesn't seem correct at all.
 
You're right. I don't know what happened there. I'll take a look at this again.
 
Some keywords which might help: "diagonalization of symmetric matrices"
 
Hey! First of all, thank you for your help! I didn't get back to this in the last couple of days but I will take a closer look tomorrow.
 
Ok, I figured this out. Thank you.

Just one more thing: I can't really follow why this makes the conjugacy class a submanifold. I know that certain kinds of orbit spaces are manifolds but this is not true for every group action, and I couldn't find anything on conjugacy classes always being submanifolds.
 

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