A Contradiction in Moment of Inertia Formulae by reductio ad absurdum?

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The discussion revolves around the moment of inertia of a thin rod and the apparent paradox that arises when comparing the moment of inertia calculated for a whole rod versus that calculated for two half-length rods. The focus is on the theoretical implications and mathematical reasoning behind the formulas used for moment of inertia in different configurations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the moment of inertia formulas for a thin rod rotating about its center of mass and about one end, leading to a paradox when considering the moment of inertia of half-length rods.
  • The paradox is described as resulting from the calculation showing that the total moment of inertia of the two half-length rods appears greater than that of the whole rod.
  • Another participant argues that the calculation is correct but emphasizes that the mass of each half-length rod should be considered as "m/2" rather than "m" in the calculations.
  • A subsequent reply acknowledges this correction and thanks the participant for pointing out the error.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial paradox presented. While one participant identifies an error in the mass consideration, the discussion does not resolve the implications of the paradox itself.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying mass distribution in calculations of moment of inertia, but does not resolve the broader implications of the paradox presented.

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In physics the moment of inertia of a thin rod which rotates around an axis through its center of mass is :

I cen = 1/12 m L sq (1)

Where: m is the mass of the rod, L is the length of the rod.

The moment of inertia of a thin rod which rotates around an axis which is at one end of the rod is:

I end = 1/3 m L sq (2)

However, this seems to lead to a paradox as follows: Imagine a rod of length L which rotates around an axis through its center of mass. Imagine the rod is split into 2 equal half-lengths with each half-length equal to L/2.
Thus, each half-length rod is rotating around the axis at one end. The moment of inertia of each half-length is, by equation (2):

I half-length end = 1/3 m (1/2 L) sq (3)

or

I half_length end = 1/12 m L sq (4)

But this is the same as equation (1). How can this be? If you computed the total moment of inertia of both half-lengths, it would equal:

I half-length end * 2 = 1/6 m L sq (5)

Which would leads to the impossible situation of (5) being greater than (1). Hence, we would have two different derivations of the moment of inertia of the same rod that give two different answers.
 
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There is no paradox here...
The procedure is right but, the only thing is when u split the rod into 2 halves, u must take the mass of each part as "m/2" and not "m".
 
Rancho said:
There is no paradox here...
The procedure is right but, the only thing is when u split the rod into 2 halves, u must take the mass of each part as "m/2" and not "m".


You're right. Thanks for pointing out the error.
 
anytime..when I'm ol :)
 

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