A metal that heats ''quickly'' and maintains temperature

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying a metal that can heat quickly under sunlight and maintain a stable temperature around 100ºC without continuing to heat significantly. The scope includes material properties, thermal dynamics, and potential applications in projects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests looking for a metal with high emissivity and thermal conductivity, proposing lead or dull iron/steel as potential candidates.
  • Another participant recommends traditional cast iron, citing its ability to heat quickly and retain heat due to its large thermal mass, while noting that the rate of heat absorption decreases as the metal approaches the temperature of the heat source.
  • A different participant introduces a product called Coffee Joulies, which utilizes a phase change material (PCM) to absorb heat quickly and release it slowly, suggesting that a metal with a low melting point like gallium could be encased for similar effects.
  • One participant discusses the concept of diffusivity, explaining that a lower diffusivity would allow a metal to hold heat better, while a higher diffusivity would enable quicker heating but less heat retention.
  • Another participant questions the previous statement about diffusivity, emphasizing the need for high thermal conductivity and low heat capacity for quick heating, while also noting the requirement for a material that changes properties near 100 degrees C, possibly through a phase change.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the properties needed for the desired metal, with no consensus reached on a specific material. There are competing ideas regarding the importance of diffusivity, emissivity, and the potential use of phase change materials.

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Some participants mention specific material properties like thermal conductivity, heat capacity, and emissivity, but the discussion lacks clarity on how these properties interact in the context of the project. There are also references to products and materials that may not be widely available or commonly used.

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hello,
I've got an idea for a project but I'd need to know if there's some kind of metal (it would be great if it was a common/affordable one, not very rare/expensive) that heats rather quickly with sunlighth (like iron) but when it gets at a temperature (say, 100ºC) doesn't continue heating (or heats slowlier).

Thank you,
Jaime
 
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What you are looking for is a metal with a high emissivity so that it absorbs sunlight well and, if I understand you correctly, high thermal conductivity so that it reaches equilibrium temperature quickly. I think lead would meet your needs, although dull iron or steel would also work.
 
Traditional cast iron is what you are looking for in my humble opinion.

Think about the cast iron radiators in a hydronic or steam heating system. The radiators heated relatively quickly and then held their heat and emitted it over time due to the large thermal mass of the radiator. The rate of transfer of the heat (cooling) is directly related to the surrounding air temperature. The rate of heat absorption of the metal decreases as the metal temp approaches the temp of the heat source.

Disclaimer: I am not an engineer. Just a plumbing, heating, and cooling contractor.
 
Hello! I am not a scientist but maybe I have a direction for you to go. There is a new product coming out (no, I am not selling it) called Coffee Joulies. They are stainless steel "beans" with a proprietary substance inside that absorbs heat quickly but releases it slowly. The info says "Joulies are filled with a proprietary substance called a “Phase Change Material” (PCM) that melts at 140°F...)

So perhaps you need to find a metal that has a certain, low, melting point like gallium and then encase it. Good luck!
 
Someone correct me if I am wrong but you may be looking for a material with a
relatively low diffusivity.

Diffusivity is a material property that is the ratio of THERMAL CONDUCTANCE to VOLUMETRIC HEAT CAPACTIANCE. That is:

\alpha = \frac{k}{\rho c_p}

So a higher diff allows for a metal to be heated up quicker, but not hold the heat as quickly. A lower metal diff will take a longer time to heat up, but will hold the heat better. You should be able to find a list of these online, or you may have to calculate them yourself.
 
Winzer, do you mean high diffusivity? Heat capacitance is the amount of energy required to heat up the material by one degree, so we want that to be very low for it to heat quickly. We also want high thermal conductance so that the material heats quickly throughout the bulk.

To summarize everything that I think is correct that has been said so far, you are looking for a material with high thermal conductivity, low heat capacity, and high emissivity. However, the OP also wants something that heats very slowly after 100 degrees C. For this we need something that drastically changes in either emissivity or heat capacity near 100 degrees C. This generally means that a phase change is required. However, I'm not aware of many materials that have serious changes in emissivity on phase change, however heat capacity is known to change drastically upon phase change. SecretTheme had a good point when referring to coffee joulies, I think you may need to encase a 2nd material that undergoes a phase change in a shell for this to work.
 

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