A query in integration using method of substitution

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The discussion revolves around the method of substitution in integration, specifically focusing on integrals of the form ##\int \frac{lx + m}{ax^2 + bx + c} dx##. Participants are exploring how to approach the integration of a linear function divided by a quadratic function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning how to separate the numerator and integrate the resulting parts. There is discussion about whether another substitution is necessary for certain integrals. Some participants express confusion regarding the steps taken in the book compared to their own understanding.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants suggesting that reliance on online calculators may hinder learning. Others emphasize the importance of practicing integration by hand to build understanding. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but various perspectives on learning methods are being shared.

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Participants mention the challenge of understanding the integration process as beginners and the potential pitfalls of using online tools for solving integrals. The original poster's reference to a specific example from their book highlights a gap in understanding that is being addressed through discussion.

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I was learning the use of standard forms in method of substitution in solving integration. My book has given this method for solving integrals of the type ##\int \frac{lx +m}{ax^2+bx+c} dx##:

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As an example, the book gives this one:

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How does one solve to get the circled part? I can understand that the book is separating the two parts of the numerator. I also know how to solve the second part, but how does one reach the circled part?
 

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For ##k_1\int \frac {2ax+b} {ax^2+bx+c}\, dx## you need another substitution.
 
Arman777 said:
For ##k_1\int \frac {2ax+b} {ax^2+bx+c}\, dx## you need another substitution.
Even I was thinking that. How do I solve that part: ##k_1 \int \frac{2ax +b}{ax^2+bx+c} dx##? As per the book, I do not require another substitution. So, how should I proceed with that part?
 
Searching the Internet for something called an "integral calculator", I found one, and it showed me the steps properly:

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This solves my problem. The book had done it in one step, which is why I was facing the problem.
 

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It's nice but it would be better If you work by yourself and find the solution. Anyways yes, that's how you do it.
 
Wrichik Basu said:
Searching the Internet for something called an "integral calculator", I found one, and it showed me the steps properly:

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This solves my problem. The book had done it in one step, which is why I was facing the problem.

When you are a beginner, just starting to learn the subject, you should avoid such on-line tools (except, possibly to check your work). You will never figure out how to do integrals without doing lots of examples by hand and without assistance from computer-aided integration tools. Think of it this way: what would you do on an exam, where you have no access to such facilities?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
When you are a beginner, just starting to learn the subject, you should avoid such on-line tools (except, possibly to check your work). You will never figure out how to do integrals without doing lots of examples by hand and without assistance from computer-aided integration tools. Think of it this way: what would you do on an exam, where you have no access to such facilities?
I solve problems from at least two books before proceeding to a new topic. Help materials like online calculators help in self study and nothing else, especially when you're stuck at a problem you just can't solve.
 
The expression to be integrated is a linear function divided by quadratic. A linear function is the derivative of a quadratic. So if you were lucky the numerator would be the derivative of the denominator, i.e. the expression to be integrated wrt x would be ##\dfrac {f'\left( x\right) }{f\left( x\right) }## which I presume you know how to do. In this case we are as usual not so lucky, but we can make it into a linear part which is part which is derivative of the denominator (just hammering the constants) with some other constant leftover – that second part then being a constant divided by a quadratic which we know how to integrate. Well actually many people would think that second part is the most difficult one.
 
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