A re-conception of energy as the set of rules for how matter moves

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The discussion centers around the conceptualization of energy in relation to matter, exploring philosophical interpretations and implications for physics. Participants examine the nature of energy, its role in the movement of matter, and the ontological status of both concepts, referencing process philosophy and Whitehead's ideas.

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes redefining energy as the set of rules governing the movement of matter, suggesting that energy may be an abstraction rather than an ontologically real entity.
  • Another participant agrees with the re-conception of energy but notes that Whitehead's view differs, as he considers energy to be a manifestation of a more fundamental creative energy.
  • A participant elaborates on Whitehead's process philosophy, suggesting that what is commonly perceived as concrete objects are actually successions of occasions of experience, which they equate to events.
  • There is a clarification regarding the terminology used in Whitehead's ontology, where "occasions of experience," "actual occasions," and "actual entities" are considered synonyms, while events are described as a higher-level grouping of these occasions.
  • Another participant emphasizes that change is fundamental in Whitehead's philosophy, arguing that both process and substance are equally important in understanding the nature of reality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of energy and its relationship to matter, with some aligning with Whitehead's philosophy while others propose alternative views. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these interpretations for physics and ontology.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of defining energy and matter, highlighting the philosophical implications and potential limitations of their proposed frameworks. There is an ongoing exploration of how these ideas might lead to mathematical simplifications, but no consensus is reached on this point.

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A standard definition of energy is the ability to do work. Work is defined as the movement of matter through the application of force (measured in Newtons).

Yet in the Standard Model of particle physics, various bosons represent "energy particles" that are the intermediaries for each of the four interactions (gravity, strong, weak, EM). More accurately, the Standard Model is a quantum field theory, so the "particles" are actually fields concentrated at a point-like locus.

Here's where my difficulty arises: even though mathematically the Standard Model has been wildly successful, its interpretation has led to much confusion, even by its most august proponents.

It seems to me that a simplified ontology (the branch of philosophy that asks what is real?) may view energy as merely an abstraction. In other words, energy may be defined as the set of rules by which the various types of matter move. Gravity is the set of rules for how all matter moves; EM is the set of rules for how all charged particles move; the strong force is the set of rules for how quarks and gluons move in relation to each other (inside baryons); and the weak force is the set of rules, generally speaking, for how baryons move in relation to each other.

Philosophically, this leads to a cleaner system in which matter is ontologically real and energy is not. Energy is only known or made manifest through the motion of matter. This conception causes problems with string theory, of course, because string theory envisions the ultimate constituents of matter to be tiny vibrating strings of pure energy. In my re-conception of what energy is, this statement is nonsensical.

But this re-conception begs the question of what is matter? I subscribe to the Whiteheadian notion of actual entities - essentially events - that consist of matter, duration and experience.

I'm curious what people think of this re-conception and if it may lead to any mathematical simplifications, as it does from an ontological perspective.
 
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Granpa, I'm a fan of Whitehead and process philosophy more generally, with just a few key distinctions. My re-conception of energy as an abstraction is partially inspired by process philosophy, but Whitehead's conception of energy is different. He holds that what physicists call energy is a manifestation of a more basic concept: creative energy. "Creativity" is Whitehead's term for what I think of as the ether or the ground of being. So creative energy is the ether manifesting its will in the actual universe.

But employing Whitehead's own "fallacy of misplaced concreteness," we can see that there is a simpler ontology available through envisioning "actual entities" (Whitehead's most basic constituent of the universe) as what physicists call matter and dispensing with energy as an ontological stuff entirely. Instead, energy is just the rules of motion of matter (actual entities).
 
from the article:

The process metaphysics elaborated in Process and Reality proposes that the fundamental elements of the universe are occasions of experience. According to this notion, what people commonly think of as concrete objects are actually successions of occasions of experience. Occasions of experience can be collected into groupings; something complex such as a human being is thus a grouping of many smaller occasions of experience. According to Whitehead, everything in the universe is characterized by experience (which is not to be confused with consciousness);


i understand this to mean that occasion of experience=event. so the fundamental 'indivisible atoms' of existence are events. events are neither nouns nor verbs but can be either or both. events can act upon and interact with other events.
 
"Occasions of experience," "actual occasions," and "actual entities" are all synonyms for the most part in Whitehead's ontology. Events are actually a little different in his ontology, though people often mistakenly use this term instead of one of the three terms I just listed. Events are a higher level grouping of occasions of experience (actual entities). But describing the basic constituents of matter in Whitehead's ontology as events does capture the key point: that we should not think of matter outside of time (changeless). Change (process) is fundamental for Whitehead - hence the term "process philosophy." He doesn't deny the importance of substance as fundamental. Rather, he places process and substance together as equally fundamental. There must be things to change in order for change to exist.
 

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