A Related Rates Shadow Problem

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on a related rates problem involving a 16-ft pole and a 5-ft tall boy walking away from it at 4 ft/sec. The solution reveals that the length of the boy's shadow increases at a rate of 20/11 ft/sec, while the tip of the shadow moves at a rate of 64/11 ft/sec when the boy is 18 ft from the pole. The relationship between the height of the pole and the boy, established through similar triangles, confirms that the rates of change are constant as the boy walks away. The conclusion emphasizes that the shadow's tip advances uniformly due to the constant speed of the boy.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of related rates in calculus
  • Knowledge of similar triangles and their properties
  • Familiarity with differentiation and rates of change
  • Basic algebra for solving equations
NEXT STEPS
  • Study related rates problems in calculus textbooks
  • Explore the concept of similar triangles in geometry
  • Practice solving more complex related rates problems
  • Learn about real-world applications of related rates in physics
USEFUL FOR

Students studying calculus, particularly those focusing on related rates problems, as well as educators looking for examples to illustrate the concept of similar triangles and their applications in real-world scenarios.

middleCmusic
Messages
74
Reaction score
0
EDIT: I think I figured it out - sorry for taking up space. I posted my answer below.*

Homework Statement



A light is at the top of a 16-ft pole. A boy 5 ft tall walks away from the pole at a rate of 4 ft/sec.

a) At what rate is the tip of his shadow moving when he is 18 ft from the pole?
b) At what rate is the length of his shadow increasing?

Homework Equations



No relevant equations.

The Attempt at a Solution



So, I know the general idea of how to solve related rates problems and here's what I've gotten so far before I got stuck:

Let x be his distance from the pole and let y be the length of his shadow.
Then by similar triangles, \frac{16}{x+y}= \frac{5}{y}, so we have
16y=5x+5y,
11y=5x,
y=\frac{5}{11}x.

Then what I thought I was supposed to do was \frac{dy}{dt}=\frac{5}{11}\frac{dx}{dt},
but from here I can't see how to apply the fact that he is 18 ft from the pole, since x doesn't appear in the related rates equation. I know that this problem should be easy and I'm probably overcomplicating it, but thanks in advance for your help!

* EDIT: I think I jumped the gun on posting about this one, sorry. Here's what I realized:

Since he is walking away at 4 ft/sec, \frac{dy}{dt} = \frac{5}{11}*4\frac{ft}{sec} = \frac{20}{11} \frac{ft}{sec}. This answers part (b).

Then let z = x+y,
and \frac{dz}{dt}=\frac{dx}{dt}+\frac{dy}{dt}=4+\frac{20}{11}=\frac{64}{11} \frac{ft}{sec}.
This answers part (a).

Is this correct?

[Sorry for wasting space - I tried to delete the thread, but I don't know how.]
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
The surprise in shadow problems like this is that there IS no dependence on x : the tip of the shadow advances at a constant rate and the shadow lengthens at a constant rate if the person is walking at a constant speed. Because the person-shadow triangle is similar to the lightpole-shadow triangle, the proportion between the two triangles is constant, so all the lengths along the ground will increase (or decrease) uniformly.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K