Question: Shadow Speed Related Rates

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The discussion revolves around a related rates problem involving shadow speed and the application of similar triangles in a kinematic context. Participants are analyzing how the height of an object affects the length of its shadow over time.

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of variables with respect to time and the application of the chain rule. There are attempts to clarify the relationships between the variables involved, particularly focusing on how to express the rates of change correctly.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the correct application of differentiation techniques, specifically regarding the chain rule. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with multiple interpretations of the problem being explored.

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There is a noted emphasis on the use of similar triangles and the relationships between the variables, but some participants express uncertainty about the correct application of differentiation in this context.

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Homework Statement


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2. Homework Equations

Similar triangles

The Attempt at a Solution


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$$\frac{y}{30}=\frac{50}{x}~\rightarrow~x=\frac{1500}{y}$$
$$\frac{dx}{dt}=-\frac{1500}{y^2}$$
$$s=16t^2=16\frac{1}{4}=4$$
$$\frac{dx}{dt}=-\frac{1500}{16}$$
The answer should be ##~\displaystyle \frac{dx}{dt}=1500##
 
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Karol said:

Homework Statement


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2. Homework Equations

Similar triangles

The Attempt at a Solution


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$$\frac{y}{30}=\frac{50}{x}~\rightarrow~x=\frac{1500}{y}$$
$$\frac{dx}{dt}=-\frac{1500}{y^2}$$
$$s=16t^2=16\frac{1}{4}=4$$
$$\frac{dx}{dt}=-\frac{1500}{16}$$
The answer should be ##~\displaystyle \frac{dx}{dt}=1500##

You want to differentiate ##x## with respect to ##t##, not ##y##. Remember the chain rule?
 
When you differentiated with respect to ##t##, you didn't apply the chain rule...

edit: Oops...beaten to the punch!
 
$$\frac{dx}{dt}=-\frac{1500}{y^2}\frac{dy}{dt}$$
$$y=16t^2~\rightarrow~\frac{dy}{dt}=32t$$
$$\frac{dx}{dt}=-\frac{1500}{16}\cdot 32\cdot \frac{1}{2}=1500$$
 

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