A simple electric field question

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to electric fields and forces, specifically involving the calculation of work done on an electron in the presence of protons. The original poster expresses difficulty in arriving at the correct answer despite using Coulomb's law for electrostatic force.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the net force acting on the electron and its variation as the electron approaches the protons. There are suggestions to consider potential energy changes instead of directly calculating work done using force and distance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of potential energy and the need for integration along the electron's path, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the complexity introduced by the changing distance and angles as the electron moves, which may affect the calculations. The original poster has reiterated their attempts without arriving at any of the provided answers.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


the coulomb law for electrostatic force.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is supposedly a very straightforward question but I can't get any of the four answers so I just wonder if anyone is kind enough to check my working for me.

Basically I just found the net force acting on the electron and got something like [tex]\frac{e^{2}}{32\pi \epsilon_{0} x^{2}}[/tex]. Then I just use the work done = force x distance formula but I did not arrive at any of the answer.

Am I missing something?
 
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The net force varies as the electron approaches the protons. since it's distance from the protons changes as does the angle they're in.
 
OH! Right I somehow forgot about that. Thanks.
 
Now I'm not sure I would calculate it like that, since it'd probably involve integrating along the whole length of the electron's path (to calculate the area in the F-s diagram to get the work done). A much easier way to do this is consider the changes is potential energy, which we know is transferred into kinetic energy.
The potential energy from a charge Q at distance r is -(1/4e0*pi)*Q/r. When you have more than one charge, this energy is added together. So first r = 5x, then r=3x. the difference*e(charge) gives the work done on the electron.
 
yes I did that, thanks for the help anyway :D
 
The difference of potential energies at final and initial position gives the answer
arkofnoah said:

Homework Statement


http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7662/screenshot20100804at214.png

Homework Equations


the coulomb law for electrostatic force.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is supposedly a very straightforward question but I can't get any of the four answers so I just wonder if anyone is kind enough to check my working for me.

Basically I just found the net force acting on the electron and got something like [tex]\frac{e^{2}}{32\pi \epsilon_{0} x^{2}}[/tex]. Then I just use the work done = force x distance formula but I did not arrive at any of the answer.

Am I missing something?
 
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