A simple equality of Generalized Lorentz Operators

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The discussion revolves around proving that the generalized rotation operators M^i, defined using Lorentz operators J^{\mu\nu}, satisfy the SU(2) algebra. The user attempts to compute the commutation relations but finds that their calculations yield zero, which contradicts the expected result. A suggestion is made to check for a missing factor of 1/2 in the definition of M^i. Additionally, there is a reminder to carefully track the signs in the commutation relations, as some terms do not cancel as initially thought. The conversation highlights the importance of precision in mathematical expressions and calculations.
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Homework Statement


Hi

we have Lorentz operators
J^{\mu\nu} = i(x^{\mu}\partial^{\nu} - x^{\nu}\partial^{\mu})

and these have
[J^{\mu\nu}, J^{\rho\sigma}] = i(\eta^{\nu\rho}J^{\mu\sigma} + \eta^{\mu\sigma}J^{\nu\rho} - \eta^{\mu\rho}J^{\nu\sigma} - \eta^{\nu\sigma}J^{\mu\rho})

Now define generalized rotation operators, for i, j, k space coordinates
M^{i} = \epsilon_{ijk}J^{jk}

Show that M^{i} have the SU(2) algebra. i.e.
[M^{i}, M^{j}] = i\epsilon_{ijk}M^{k}

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The Attempt at a Solution


I've done a few attempts and failed. so I tried taking an example
M^{1}= \epsilon_{123}J^{23}+\epsilon_{132}J^{32} = J^{23} - J^{32}
M^{2}= \dots = J^{31} - J^{13}

and now
[M^{1},M^{2}] = [J^{23}, J^{31}] - [J^{32}, J^{31}] + [J^{23}, J^{13}] - [J^{32}, J^{13}]

well J^{ij} = -J^{ji} so the second term negates the first one (J^{32} for J^{23}) and like wise the fourth and third term. So all in all I get zero. and that's no SU(2) :(

where did I go wrong?

thanks a lot for reading this
Tamir
 
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Hello, tamiry.

tamiry said:
Now define generalized rotation operators, for i, j, k space coordinates
M^{i} = \epsilon_{ijk}J^{jk}

Did you leave out a factor of 1/2 here?

[M^{1},M^{2}] = [J^{23}, J^{31}] - [J^{32}, J^{31}] + [J^{23}, J^{13}] - [J^{32}, J^{13}]

J^{ij} = -J^{ji} so the second term negates the first one (J^{32} for J^{23}) and like wise the fourth and third term. So all in all I get zero.

Those terms don't cancel. Watch the signs carefully.
 
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