A simple yet tricky pendulum problem

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The discussion revolves around determining the frequency of a harmonic pendulum under different conditions: with no one on the swing, a person sitting, and a person standing. It is suggested that the frequency is highest when a person stands on the swing due to the center of gravity being elevated. Conversely, the frequency is lowest when no one is on the swing, and intermediate when a person is seated. The center of mass of a person is considered to be lower than the swing when seated, affecting the overall frequency. The problem is acknowledged as tricky, prompting further exploration of the concepts involved.
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Homework Statement



A swing in a playground is set in motion without anyone on it. Thereafter a person sits on it, as close to static as possible while the swing is in motion.
Finally a person is standing on the swing, the swing in motion.


Homework Equations



Under ideal circumstances (no aerodynamics, no movement by the person etc), in what case would the frequency of the "harmonic pendulum" be the highest?


The Attempt at a Solution



The frequency should be the highest in the case with the person standing on the swing, since the centre of gravity has moved further up. With no one on the swing the frequency should be somewhat lower, and lowest with a person sitting on since the gravity then is moved downwards.
What do you think, all help is appreciated.

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When the person is sitting how much of their weight is above the seat and how much below?

The center of mass then is higher or lower than the swing alone?
 
Hi, thanks for the reply.
There is no info on how the centre of mass is moved compared to the seat of the swing. Nor is there any info on how the persons weight is divided. But if I am not mistaken the centre of mass in a human is located in the very low stomach. Assuming this is correct, the centre of mass should be higher with a person sitting on the swing than for the swing alone.
If this is the case the frequency for the swing is the lowest for the swing itself, higher with a person sitting on it and the highest with a person standing on it.
Would this seem reasonable to assume?
As the title of the question hint it feels like a tricky problem..

Pete
 
That sounds like a better answer then.

Cheers.
 
Thanks for the time LowlyPion, feedback much appreciated.

Pete
 
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