About acceleration of block with respect to wedge and ground

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the acceleration of a block placed on a stationary wedge with no friction, specifically focusing on the block's acceleration with respect to both the wedge and the ground. Participants explore the implications of different frames of reference in this scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for the acceleration of a block on a wedge with respect to both the wedge and the ground, noting that their instructor suggested these values differ.
  • Another participant suggests treating the wedge as fixed for the first calculation and incorporating the wedge's negative acceleration for the second calculation.
  • A participant reiterates the problem, emphasizing that the wedge is stationary and all surfaces are smooth, questioning the validity of the teacher's claim that the accelerations differ.
  • One participant asserts that the acceleration of the block with respect to the wedge is gsinθ and with respect to the ground is g, but another counters that both accelerations should be the same, gsinθ, due to the inertial frame considerations.
  • A later reply supports the idea that since both the wedge and ground are at rest in the same inertial frame, the acceleration of the block should indeed be the same with respect to both.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the values of acceleration with respect to different frames. Some argue that the accelerations are the same, while others reference differing values as stated by an instructor. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the correct interpretation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of the frames of reference and the implications of the wedge being stationary. The discussion also highlights potential confusion around the application of inertial frame principles.

caffe
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Hi friendz I have a problem.
If a block of mass m is placed over the wedge such that there is no friction then what is the acceleration of block
1with respect to wedge
2 with respect to ground
Pleas reply.
Thanks in advance.
My sir said that it is different.Is it so.
 
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For the first one you just need to consider the wedge as fixed. For the second one add the negative acceleration of the wedge to the block.
 
Here wedge is stationary.Now please tell me the acceleration of block with respect to wedge and ground.
 
Please state the exact problem you are trying to solve.
 
My question is that there is a stationary wedge on which block is placed and all the sutfaces are smooth.Now according to mg physics teacher the acceleration of block with respect to wedge is gsin@ and with respect to ground is g .Is it true.But according to my knowledge as we read that accelaration of anybody with respect to two different inertial frame is same.Now here block and ground are two different inertial frames.Then why acceleration of block with respect to wedge and ground different.
 
caffe said:
My question is that there is a stationary wedge on which block is placed and all the sutfaces are smooth.
OK, the wedge is fixed and not free to slide. But there's no friction between block and wedge.
Now according to mg physics teacher the acceleration of block with respect to wedge is gsin@ and with respect to ground is g .Is it true.
No. The acceleration of the block with respect to both the wedge and the ground is gsinθ.
But according to my knowledge as we read that accelaration of anybody with respect to two different inertial frame is same.Now here block and ground are two different inertial frames.Then why acceleration of block with respect to wedge and ground different.
Your thinking is correct. The wedge and ground are both at rest in the same inertial frame. So the acceleration of the sliding block is the same with respect to each.
 
Thanks .
Sir...
 

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