About which axis the moment of inertia of A body is minimum

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the moment of inertia of a body and the axis about which it is minimized. Participants explore theoretical aspects, practical examples, and the implications of the parallel axis theorem in relation to the center of mass.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recall being taught that the axis of minimum moment of inertia is through the center of mass, but question how this aligns with the idea that moment of inertia increases with mass concentration.
  • Others argue that the mass of a body remains constant regardless of the axis of rotation, suggesting that the distribution of mass relative to the axis is what affects the moment of inertia.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of the parallel axis theorem, noting that it provides a rigorous explanation for understanding moment of inertia in relation to mass distribution.
  • Another participant explains that while the center of mass can be treated as a point for some analyses, this does not apply to rotational dynamics, where mass distribution is crucial.
  • A practical example involving a baseball bat is presented to illustrate how different axes of rotation can affect the effort required to rotate the bat, suggesting that the axis perpendicular to the others may yield the minimum moment of inertia.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between mass distribution and moment of inertia, with no consensus reached on the implications of the center of mass and the parallel axis theorem. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the parallel axis theorem and the concept of mass distribution, but there are unresolved assumptions about how these relate to the moment of inertia in practical scenarios.

Amru123
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I remember my teacher saying it to be the axis along the centre of mass but the centre of mass has all the mass concentrated in it and hence moment of inertia should increase as moment of inertia is proportional to mass?
 
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Amru123 said:
the centre of mass has all the mass concentrated in it
I'm not sure what this is meant to mean. The mass of a body is the same whatever axis you rotate it about. Why would it change?

Did your teacher mention the parallel axis theorem? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_axis_theorem
 
Ibix said:
I'm not sure what this is meant to mean. The mass of a body is the same whatever axis you rotate it about. Why would it change?

Did your teacher mention the parallel axis theorem? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_axis_theorem
Yeah,he did mention.Centre of mass is where the all the mass is assumed to be concentrated.Just look up for it's definition.
 
You can treat a body as if it were a point particle of the same mass located at the centre of mass for some purposes. Not all, and rotation is not one if those purposes, since how hard something is to start rotating depends on the mass distribution.

The parallel axis theorem is the rigorous answer to your question - take a look at the derivation in the wiki link. Intuitively, the centre of mass is the place where the average distance to all the little elements of mass making up the body is minimised. If one tries to rotate about an axis that does not pass through the center of mass then the average distance to all the little bits of mass is increased. So the ##mr^2## is increased because the ##r^2## increase, not because the m changes. And the total ##mr^2## is just the moment of inertia.
 
Amru123 said:
I remember my teacher saying it to be the axis along the centre of mass but the centre of mass has all the mass concentrated in it and hence moment of inertia should increase as moment of inertia is proportional to mass?
Mass contributes to moment of inertia no matter where your axis is - but mass closer to the axis contributes less (it scales with the squared radius), so a lot of mass close to the axis leads to the smallest moment of inertia. Anyway, you cannot replace an object by a point-mass if you want to calculate its moment of inertia, as discussed in the previous post.
 
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One way to clarify the moment of inertia axes ( there are 3 ) is by way if example. Lay a baseball bat on the floor. Now turn the baseball bat around an (vertical) axis with the proviso that the vertical axis is through the center of mass. Next turn the baseball bat around a horizontal axis through the center of mass. The axis you picked will probably be one where the bat rotates in much the same way as the previous case. I takes approximately the same effort to turn the bat in both these cases.

Finally turn the bat through a third axis perpendicular to the first two, but this time turn the bat as though the bat were on a wood lathe. This time much less effort would be required to turn the bat at the same rate. This axis of turning on the wood lathe would be the minimum axis of inertia.
 

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